Ticaboo Creek aka Survivorman is a Fake?

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LOL. No kidding. For just $24.99, this could be yours!

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I want to "double" like that post :)

I learned from his Bigfoot episodes that a broken tree means that there is a Bigfoot in the area. I've been seeing signs of Bigfoot all over the place since then. They really came out after a nasty storm blew through last week.
 

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One of Les' more honest moments, it seems. To paraphrase his instructions on Facebook, you don't have to know how to survive, just how to film yourself. Haha!
 

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@Nick, look what I found:

https://www.facebook.com/thereallesstroud/posts/10153197286361275

"Les StroudTikaboo is easily explained - some assumptions were made that were incorrect - other parts were correct but did not detract from my actual survival - as for one simple point - i am often in the vicinity of traffic and roads - and in fact on one occasion - Georgia - i could hear the trucks downshifting IN Ticaboo i couldn't hear anything but i could've walked out any time i wanted too - and on another i had to pass by cottages to continue my way into the wilderness - the point is I stay in and carry out my survival as that is what i am there for - for another point there have been two episodes in fifteen years where i wanted desperately to show the ecological differences in two areas but they were too far apart and so i allowed a truck to pick me up - drive an hour (with a strict rule to not have food or water on them) and drop me off to continue my survival - i actually hated doing that so i decided to never do that again - Ticaboo was one of those locations (the other shall remain a mystery) ...and lastly - i often dont clean up after myself when i leave a place but my team is instructed to come in later and clean up for me - they have not always honoured this unfortunately - i can't remember what else was said about Ticaboo but i think those were some of the concerns....in fact over the years my attention to detail of making sure i am as far out and as remote and dealing with life or death risk, has gotten stronger - but i have refused to fake what i do...its not always easy to find a remote spot but i always stay in and do what i do - in the beginning the networks had more sway and even tried to influence my narration scripting - after a few times of losing the odd battle to them i vowed and have achieved to this day only saying what i want to say - which is to simply tell the story as it happened while on occasion sifting out of the edit of the show the insignificant moments (like being able to hear traffic) - and often if i can walk out i will actually say - "i can walk out of here" but then again i am there to survive.....I hope that helps Kyle....L"
 

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He at least confirms that he used a truck to move from camp 1 to camp 2. And he confirms that the crew doesn't always clean up camp.

But he says that he couldn't hear anything from roads at Ticaboo. That, of course, is true for camp 2, but it can't be true for camp 1. I'm willing to spot him that maybe he simply doesn't remember...it's been a long time. But at camp 1 he could hear AND see the road. And in the episode he not only said that the crew would clean up camp 1, but he said they would fly in to clean it up...when it was 300 yards from the highway.
 

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Wow... I'm on my phone and can't seem to see what made him offer that up. Either way, that is wild. His fans will eat it up.
 

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Wow... I'm on my phone and can't seem to see what made him offer that up. Either way, that is wild. His fans will eat it up.
Yeah, read his initial comment that started it if you get a chance...it'll make you want to respond.

And you'll notice this was all posted today. He read the stuff at some point and still remembered some of it.
 

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What bullshit. Almost every little detail was still so fake. The inability to get to Milk creek. The tiny puddle that he sucked with a straw when you know there was water everywhere. Entertainment...
 

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...Ignoring the water tank at the top of the canyon...the all day climb out of the canyon...

I'd love to know which assumptions we made that were wrong. I'm not saying we couldn't have made some mistakes, but I think we were pretty thorough, so I'd like to know what he claims are our wrong assumptions.
 

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The more I think about it, this is how I read his explanation:

Yeah, some of that stuff they said about Utah was pretty true...it wasn't all true, but I don't remember which parts weren't true, other than the fact that I couldn't hear cars from the camp. But for those places you haven't found, yet...I didn't do that stuff there.

And it's not true that he couldn't hear cars from camp 1. So he only denied one allegation and that denial can be confidently disproved.

And like you said, Nick, people are eating up that "explanation."
 

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I've watched a few episodes where les actually admits that civilization is pretty close by. in fact the episode Tonga he actually says there is a trail where he could hike right to civilization. then goes on to say that's not the reason he is there. he's there to show you what to do if you were in a situation where you didn't know how to get to civilization. i'm sure there are episodes where he is real close to civilization but hell let's be honest there are people starving in the middle of the city with McDonald's all around them. the idea is knowing what to do if you are unable to get to civilization and how to take care of yourself out there. as far as getting food water shelter etc. watch the episode Tonga and you will see him admit right on camera that he could leave right now if he wanted to but that's not the reason he's there. Also just want to say that whether he's 400 yards away from the road or not. being somewhere for seven days with no food or water or anything with you. is going to be tough regardless of how close to civilization you really are. unless you're going to be bear grills and go to a Hilton. Hell I'd say it might even be a little harder knowing you could leave right now and go to get some food at a restaurant but instead staying in toughing it out for the seven days..
 

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I've watched a few episodes where les actually admits that civilization is pretty close by. in fact the episode Tonga he actually says there is a trail where he could hike right to civilization. then goes on to say that's not the reason he is there. he's there to show you what to do if you were in a situation where you didn't know how to get to civilization. i'm sure there are episodes where he is real close to civilization but hell let's be honest there are people starving in the middle of the city with McDonald's all around them. the idea is knowing what to do if you are unable to get to civilization and how to take care of yourself out there. as far as getting food water shelter etc. watch the episode Tonga and you will see him admit right on camera that he could leave right now if he wanted to but that's not the reason he's there. Also just want to say that whether he's 400 yards away from the road or not. being somewhere for seven days with no food or water or anything with you. is going to be tough regardless of how close to civilization you really are. unless you're going to be bear grills and go to a Hilton. Hell I'd say it might even be a little harder knowing you could leave right now and go to get some food at a restaurant but instead staying in toughing it out for the seven days..


I know this is an old post but I enjoyed reading this. I had a similar experience several years ago when Bear Grylls did an episode of Man vs. Wild "surviving" in Hells Canyon and the Seven Devils Area. My wife (girlfriend at the time) and I were watching it at my in-laws and both of us were just fuming and yelling at the TV. We had backpacked in the exact area several times and knew that most of what he was doing was total bullshit. This also led to the backpacker article the following year that completely ruined the solitude of the area. Prior to that episode I was pretty sure that a fair amount of his show and Survivorman was a bunch of crap but actually seeing somewhere that I had intimate knowledge of really ruined those shows for me, even as brainless entertainment.
 

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Now if you watch any of the Alaska reality shows, quintuple the BS thrown out by Les or Bear, you will be approaching reality.

As others have said, there is usually some decent advice in his shows or at least options to consider.

My wife cannot stand to watch his show and was happy to hear that her intuitions were proven correct when I mentioned this thread to her. I always understood that these shows make a living off of contrived situations, but I have to admit, he completely lost me when he developed the bigfoot garbage.
 
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Now if you watch any of the Alaska reality shows, quintuple the BS thrown out by Les or Bear, you will be approaching reality.

As others have said, there is usually some decent advice in his shows or at least options to consider.

My wife cannot stand to watch his show and was happy to hear that her intuitions were proven correct when I mentioned this thread to her. I always understood that these shows make a living off of contrived situations, but I have to admit, he completely lost me when he developed the bigfoot garbage.


I am going to have to look into the bigfoot stuff. I want to see what kind of stuff he is spewing.
 

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Boy, my website still gets lit up from people who look for info on whether or not Survivorman is fake. I can always tell when there's something new airing from him because I'll see a big spike on that page.

I started to make a video showing our findings because it's apparent from many comments on my site that people can't/won't digest the info. I may finish it up and post it just to make more fans angry.
 
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