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We dealt with the double black Hangover on February 8, 2018, the day before we headed a "little bit off course" (@Rockskipper
) to the Chiricahua National Monument. What exactly do you need for the Hangover? WINTER, MID WEEK DAY, NON-HOLIDAY, STICKY SOLES or perhaps a MTB.
And if you are a photographer and you like WATER, RED ROCKS, BLUE SKY, UNLIMITED WATER REFLECTIONS, then you bring a camera or two.
How many people do you meet? 4 or maybe 6. How many bikers? Zero, maybe 1 biker with a dislocated shoulder.
The Hangover hiking trail ( also a ONE-WAY Double Black Diamond MBT trail) wraps around Mitten ridge. It's a ledgy and steep trail on a lot of slick rock with spectacular views. It's an epic MBT trail, that is so difficult, that you actually rarely meet a biker or another hiker - assuming you pick a midweek, non holiday, winter day.
To get to the Hangover trail, you need to hike up via Munds Wagon Trail along a creek and turn onto Cow Pies trail. In the month of February the creek has flowing water, like we saw in 2017, or it has standing water, like this trip in 2018. We usually 'crawl' with a speed of 1mph up Munds Wagon, because of the many photo opportunities. If the water flows in the creek, then you need to cross the creek about 8 times or so. We have hiked this 8.5 mile loop hike about 5 times over the past few years and the pictures will give away it's location.
I attached links to some epic MBT videos at the end, if anyone is interested to watch it. Our MBTs collect a lot of dust in our basement, but they all have fun memories of throwing me off ridge trails in the Alps. Now we mostly hike, here are the pictures :
Distant view from Cow Pies of Mitten Ridge with the Hangover trail.
![H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69229-0533824771758f288adc740b4ac4a7cb.jpg)
Here is a view from the steep part of the Hangover trail - on the back side of Mitten ridge. White MBT marker on the slick rock.
![H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69254-546496cc368400a1eff3f6e89aa79366.jpg)
BEFORE we reached the Hangover trail, we saw all these water reflections on MUNDS WAGON trail:
![H10-reflection Munds Wagon-IMG_8231.jpg H10-reflection Munds Wagon-IMG_8231.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69237-768fcc22d7154cfb7be5718d750f7f74.jpg)
![H8-reflection1 on Munds Wagon-IMG_8229.jpg H8-reflection1 on Munds Wagon-IMG_8229.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69235-8de8537ae07ac5f0aa3d780a8bf0e520.jpg)
![H11-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080861.jpg H11-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080861.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69238-a29f368629282e4eddb7976d1a214997.jpg)
![H12-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080875.jpg H12-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080875.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69239-5018c6aa0a9a5d0fda8ba404f21106f6.jpg)
![H13-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080889.jpg H13-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080889.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69240-d302f4f9e5e05653473ff2f25b92f8d6.jpg)
![H15-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080995.jpg H15-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080995.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69242-cb1eb4f4e54895f7c6a56112a3183445.jpg)
![H16-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2081041.jpg H16-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2081041.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69243-607eaea2d5a6aeb15c3122c98d7d8d4b.jpg)
![H17-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2081107.jpg H17-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2081107.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69244-26173963a8d88a19dcbe61cd43ec262f.jpg)
And here is Rick- the Photographer in action.
![H17b-Rick working reflections-IMG_8064.jpg H17b-Rick working reflections-IMG_8064.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69252-45ebe8bd8dc02cb6ef73c26e84679ca5.jpg)
Further up on Munds Wagon trail:
![H18-high up on Munds Wagon-P2081111.jpg H18-high up on Munds Wagon-P2081111.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69245-fbe878126c8878beb81dda6fdd7b1796.jpg)
View from Cows Pie trail towards Mitten Ridge and the Hangover trail:
![H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69229-0533824771758f288adc740b4ac4a7cb.jpg)
![H2-Cow Pie closer view of Mitten ridge-2017-P2080636.jpg H2-Cow Pie closer view of Mitten ridge-2017-P2080636.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69230-edaafb18d2f3ef8a16d45c37c67ed9d1.jpg)
![H21- Cow Pies view-P2080043.jpg H21- Cow Pies view-P2080043.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69248-f1a6f7651969f54a0c05a8d469f14605.jpg)
![H22- Cow Pies- view-P2080045.jpg H22- Cow Pies- view-P2080045.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69249-8f6446376ce7285115c446336ce2046b.jpg)
![H23- Cow Pies- Aase-P2081253.jpg H23- Cow Pies- Aase-P2081253.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69250-a0407a977f21446b00912add2f9a0a96.jpg)
And finally the start of the Hangover trail. Bikers have to enter here, hikers can obviously come from the other side, though it requires from scrambling.
![H24- Sign- Hangover trail Double Black-P2081267.jpg H24- Sign- Hangover trail Double Black-P2081267.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69251-36184f7e4ace7eb940722c4f6059ad17.jpg)
![H25 close up sign 2017-IMG_5489.jpg H25 close up sign 2017-IMG_5489.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69265-3a71c4270fc596218e81fc8ffa294335.jpg)
Trail is just to the right of the tree
![H26-easy beginning-Hangover-P2081303.jpg H26-easy beginning-Hangover-P2081303.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69257-0b47fff47e121503e8fd65fef832d17b.jpg)
![H27-Hnagover w rocks-P2081337.jpg H27-Hnagover w rocks-P2081337.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69258-17c183ebfe710fab0d9a0aae16291598.jpg)
![H28-closer to saddle-P2080681.jpg H28-closer to saddle-P2080681.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69260-760435fee4fc6dee2ab28b146a9e8d3c.jpg)
The saddle, the Hangover trail is a ledge to the right and below the woman with the dog. This is really a lot steeper than it looks.
![H29-Mitten saddle P2080056.jpg H29-Mitten saddle P2080056.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69261-3e50c58c32c60730244d17e1074a93c9.jpg)
![H30 - Mitten saddle-P2080055.jpg H30 - Mitten saddle-P2080055.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69262-ce10da234e3ff89368fb3c7498cf2b9b.jpg)
![H31-saddle -P2081397.jpg H31-saddle -P2081397.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69263-dcbb8926d68f23cf8d9f097d474c73ac.jpg)
I didn't like to stand, where Rick is......
![H33- saddle-Rick--IMG_8115.jpg H33- saddle-Rick--IMG_8115.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69267-735148be702190462f5435846388a48e.jpg)
Who repairs the Hangover? These fine women and men from the US Forest Service. And in no time Rick had them lined up and posing!
![H32-Forest Service team-P2081404.jpg H32-Forest Service team-P2081404.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69264-95b14acdd3392cee4b64c52b885bd171.jpg)
And Rick got two of their phones and took more pictures, so they had some pictures to share. And I took a picture of Rick taking pictures.
![H32- photo of photo forest service-IMG_8129.jpg H32- photo of photo forest service-IMG_8129.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69266-2ea8edce8e815cdcb075b69a8cb75503.jpg)
![H33-Aase beginning of ledge-P2081419.jpg H33-Aase beginning of ledge-P2081419.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69270-533e4fb83e4fe6afddc9be3523491ec9.jpg)
On the trail, looking back to the saddle (behind the tree)
![H35- looking back at saddle-IMG_8139.jpg H35- looking back at saddle-IMG_8139.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69269-832ef21ed59987296276101f3ef4b3da.jpg)
This is taken right on the Hangover trail looking back, lots of steep slick rock
![H34-fisheye look-back to saddle-P2080070.jpg H34-fisheye look-back to saddle-P2080070.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69271-c6e7ecb94be9622bc16a684d71264641.jpg)
![H-Rick on ledge-views-IMG_8143.jpg H-Rick on ledge-views-IMG_8143.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69304-4967eda91f9207cc0d1e407d8dcd570d.jpg)
![H-Rick along wall-IMG_8147.jpg H-Rick along wall-IMG_8147.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69308-d2931c4a821a8843dd160f78be9fd9e9.jpg)
2017 picture:
![H-Rick-rock wall-IMG_5571.jpg H-Rick-rock wall-IMG_5571.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69310-5d6b0ad9f3d000054ced65bef5019b2c.jpg)
A wide Subway looking area- I feel good here!
![H35-subway looking piece-P2080085.jpg H35-subway looking piece-P2080085.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69272-4700dc572be80b415d456b73f53e76ec.jpg)
Remember it's a Mountain Bike trail - watch them pass this piece in the videos.
There is NO ROOM FOR ERROR ON THIS TRAIL. YOU WILL END UP VERY FAR DOWN, IF YOU FALL OFF THIS LEDGE.
![H36-tree in the way-P2080086.jpg H36-tree in the way-P2080086.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69273-3a0c2484a887275c28441d903336ad23.jpg)
Here is the 2017 iPhone picture of Rick at that tree:
![H-Rick-panorama-2017-IMG_5552.jpg H-Rick-panorama-2017-IMG_5552.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69309-fc3ff72515a9380899a77cd5ca81ee9e.jpg)
And here is the steep section of the Hangover trail with spectacular views. First a hard 180 turn.
![H37 hard turn-P2080097.jpg H37 hard turn-P2080097.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69275-14b4a1b31b57636e387623b97a56983e.jpg)
![H38-backside at hard turn-P2081511.jpg H38-backside at hard turn-P2081511.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69276-7d976204037ea4f953aefbc6afe590b2.jpg)
Views are incredible here (good lunch spot), but I doubt the mountain bikers get to see that.... white marker to the left.
![H38-views backside towards Sedona-P2081527.jpg H38-views backside towards Sedona-P2081527.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69277-f2bef16784f5d55adad39287d9570c7b.jpg)
![H39-view bridge-P2081563.jpg H39-view bridge-P2081563.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69278-deed4a850ad774280baa6a11cdf1d6e3.jpg)
We never follow the bike line with white markers exactly- sometimes you need a different route as a hiker.
![H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69254-546496cc368400a1eff3f6e89aa79366.jpg)
![H41-steep-P2081573.jpg H41-steep-P2081573.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69280-dff38c4234eda99ed8d8fb547c768098.jpg)
![H42-steep-P2081583.jpg H42-steep-P2081583.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69281-83240524d69bdf197ba1efdb0a835825.jpg)
Looking back up at the steep section.
![H43-steep-P2081611.jpg H43-steep-P2081611.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69282-e591982042908edf4ef78409cd553fe0.jpg)
Back side of Mitten ridge- or the side facing Munds Wagon trail. Lots of loose rocks and switchbacks on the return,
see second video, it shows the remaining trail better.
![H44- loose rock-single trail-P2081633.jpg H44- loose rock-single trail-P2081633.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69283-c966c1a24928b199113b022c8d815ac6.jpg)
We then enjoyed more water reflections on the way back:
![H9-reflection2-Munds Wagon-IMG_8230.jpg H9-reflection2-Munds Wagon-IMG_8230.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69236-8f242023a371a0333000f5f27c4bd7af.jpg)
And when the water flows- like in February 2017 there are few reflections, but a lot of this:![H4-water running-2017-P2080548.jpg H4-water running-2017-P2080548.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69232-fd79fbdf0f54b3b3f2754a7a57648565.jpg)
![H6-water in creek-2017-P2080580.jpg H6-water in creek-2017-P2080580.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69233-56f16899a06d4d209764a4ba9a3539b7.jpg)
Hope you enjoyed the photos and the following MTB videos I found on-line.![Cool :cool: :cool:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
So.... do we have any MTB'ers on BCP?
First video from Saddle to the steep section and the 180 turn:
Second part of the Hangover trail (from steep section down through the switchbacks)
And if you are a photographer and you like WATER, RED ROCKS, BLUE SKY, UNLIMITED WATER REFLECTIONS, then you bring a camera or two.
How many people do you meet? 4 or maybe 6. How many bikers? Zero, maybe 1 biker with a dislocated shoulder.
The Hangover hiking trail ( also a ONE-WAY Double Black Diamond MBT trail) wraps around Mitten ridge. It's a ledgy and steep trail on a lot of slick rock with spectacular views. It's an epic MBT trail, that is so difficult, that you actually rarely meet a biker or another hiker - assuming you pick a midweek, non holiday, winter day.
To get to the Hangover trail, you need to hike up via Munds Wagon Trail along a creek and turn onto Cow Pies trail. In the month of February the creek has flowing water, like we saw in 2017, or it has standing water, like this trip in 2018. We usually 'crawl' with a speed of 1mph up Munds Wagon, because of the many photo opportunities. If the water flows in the creek, then you need to cross the creek about 8 times or so. We have hiked this 8.5 mile loop hike about 5 times over the past few years and the pictures will give away it's location.
I attached links to some epic MBT videos at the end, if anyone is interested to watch it. Our MBTs collect a lot of dust in our basement, but they all have fun memories of throwing me off ridge trails in the Alps. Now we mostly hike, here are the pictures :
Distant view from Cow Pies of Mitten Ridge with the Hangover trail.
![H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69229-0533824771758f288adc740b4ac4a7cb.jpg)
Here is a view from the steep part of the Hangover trail - on the back side of Mitten ridge. White MBT marker on the slick rock.
![H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69254-546496cc368400a1eff3f6e89aa79366.jpg)
BEFORE we reached the Hangover trail, we saw all these water reflections on MUNDS WAGON trail:
![H10-reflection Munds Wagon-IMG_8231.jpg H10-reflection Munds Wagon-IMG_8231.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69237-768fcc22d7154cfb7be5718d750f7f74.jpg)
![H8-reflection1 on Munds Wagon-IMG_8229.jpg H8-reflection1 on Munds Wagon-IMG_8229.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69235-8de8537ae07ac5f0aa3d780a8bf0e520.jpg)
![H11-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080861.jpg H11-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080861.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69238-a29f368629282e4eddb7976d1a214997.jpg)
![H12-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080875.jpg H12-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080875.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69239-5018c6aa0a9a5d0fda8ba404f21106f6.jpg)
![H13-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080889.jpg H13-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2080889.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69240-d302f4f9e5e05653473ff2f25b92f8d6.jpg)
![H15-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080995.jpg H15-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2080995.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69242-cb1eb4f4e54895f7c6a56112a3183445.jpg)
![H16-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2081041.jpg H16-reflections-Munds Wagon-P2081041.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69243-607eaea2d5a6aeb15c3122c98d7d8d4b.jpg)
![H17-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2081107.jpg H17-reflections- Munds Wagon-P2081107.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69244-26173963a8d88a19dcbe61cd43ec262f.jpg)
And here is Rick- the Photographer in action.
![H17b-Rick working reflections-IMG_8064.jpg H17b-Rick working reflections-IMG_8064.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69252-45ebe8bd8dc02cb6ef73c26e84679ca5.jpg)
Further up on Munds Wagon trail:
![H18-high up on Munds Wagon-P2081111.jpg H18-high up on Munds Wagon-P2081111.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69245-fbe878126c8878beb81dda6fdd7b1796.jpg)
View from Cows Pie trail towards Mitten Ridge and the Hangover trail:
![H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg H1-Cow Pie view of Mitten Ridge w Hangover trail-2017-P2080646.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69229-0533824771758f288adc740b4ac4a7cb.jpg)
![H2-Cow Pie closer view of Mitten ridge-2017-P2080636.jpg H2-Cow Pie closer view of Mitten ridge-2017-P2080636.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69230-edaafb18d2f3ef8a16d45c37c67ed9d1.jpg)
![H21- Cow Pies view-P2080043.jpg H21- Cow Pies view-P2080043.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69248-f1a6f7651969f54a0c05a8d469f14605.jpg)
![H22- Cow Pies- view-P2080045.jpg H22- Cow Pies- view-P2080045.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69249-8f6446376ce7285115c446336ce2046b.jpg)
![H23- Cow Pies- Aase-P2081253.jpg H23- Cow Pies- Aase-P2081253.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69250-a0407a977f21446b00912add2f9a0a96.jpg)
And finally the start of the Hangover trail. Bikers have to enter here, hikers can obviously come from the other side, though it requires from scrambling.
![H24- Sign- Hangover trail Double Black-P2081267.jpg H24- Sign- Hangover trail Double Black-P2081267.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69251-36184f7e4ace7eb940722c4f6059ad17.jpg)
![H25 close up sign 2017-IMG_5489.jpg H25 close up sign 2017-IMG_5489.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69265-3a71c4270fc596218e81fc8ffa294335.jpg)
Trail is just to the right of the tree
![H26-easy beginning-Hangover-P2081303.jpg H26-easy beginning-Hangover-P2081303.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69257-0b47fff47e121503e8fd65fef832d17b.jpg)
![H27-Hnagover w rocks-P2081337.jpg H27-Hnagover w rocks-P2081337.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69258-17c183ebfe710fab0d9a0aae16291598.jpg)
![H28-closer to saddle-P2080681.jpg H28-closer to saddle-P2080681.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69260-760435fee4fc6dee2ab28b146a9e8d3c.jpg)
The saddle, the Hangover trail is a ledge to the right and below the woman with the dog. This is really a lot steeper than it looks.
![H29-Mitten saddle P2080056.jpg H29-Mitten saddle P2080056.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69261-3e50c58c32c60730244d17e1074a93c9.jpg)
![H30 - Mitten saddle-P2080055.jpg H30 - Mitten saddle-P2080055.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69262-ce10da234e3ff89368fb3c7498cf2b9b.jpg)
![H31-saddle -P2081397.jpg H31-saddle -P2081397.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69263-dcbb8926d68f23cf8d9f097d474c73ac.jpg)
I didn't like to stand, where Rick is......
![H33- saddle-Rick--IMG_8115.jpg H33- saddle-Rick--IMG_8115.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69267-735148be702190462f5435846388a48e.jpg)
Who repairs the Hangover? These fine women and men from the US Forest Service. And in no time Rick had them lined up and posing!
![H32-Forest Service team-P2081404.jpg H32-Forest Service team-P2081404.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69264-95b14acdd3392cee4b64c52b885bd171.jpg)
And Rick got two of their phones and took more pictures, so they had some pictures to share. And I took a picture of Rick taking pictures.
![H32- photo of photo forest service-IMG_8129.jpg H32- photo of photo forest service-IMG_8129.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69266-2ea8edce8e815cdcb075b69a8cb75503.jpg)
![H33-Aase beginning of ledge-P2081419.jpg H33-Aase beginning of ledge-P2081419.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69270-533e4fb83e4fe6afddc9be3523491ec9.jpg)
On the trail, looking back to the saddle (behind the tree)
![H35- looking back at saddle-IMG_8139.jpg H35- looking back at saddle-IMG_8139.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69269-832ef21ed59987296276101f3ef4b3da.jpg)
This is taken right on the Hangover trail looking back, lots of steep slick rock
![H34-fisheye look-back to saddle-P2080070.jpg H34-fisheye look-back to saddle-P2080070.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69271-c6e7ecb94be9622bc16a684d71264641.jpg)
![H-Rick on ledge-views-IMG_8143.jpg H-Rick on ledge-views-IMG_8143.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69304-4967eda91f9207cc0d1e407d8dcd570d.jpg)
![H-Rick along wall-IMG_8147.jpg H-Rick along wall-IMG_8147.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69308-d2931c4a821a8843dd160f78be9fd9e9.jpg)
2017 picture:
![H-Rick-rock wall-IMG_5571.jpg H-Rick-rock wall-IMG_5571.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69310-5d6b0ad9f3d000054ced65bef5019b2c.jpg)
A wide Subway looking area- I feel good here!
![H35-subway looking piece-P2080085.jpg H35-subway looking piece-P2080085.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69272-4700dc572be80b415d456b73f53e76ec.jpg)
Remember it's a Mountain Bike trail - watch them pass this piece in the videos.
There is NO ROOM FOR ERROR ON THIS TRAIL. YOU WILL END UP VERY FAR DOWN, IF YOU FALL OFF THIS LEDGE.
![H36-tree in the way-P2080086.jpg H36-tree in the way-P2080086.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69273-3a0c2484a887275c28441d903336ad23.jpg)
Here is the 2017 iPhone picture of Rick at that tree:
![H-Rick-panorama-2017-IMG_5552.jpg H-Rick-panorama-2017-IMG_5552.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69309-fc3ff72515a9380899a77cd5ca81ee9e.jpg)
And here is the steep section of the Hangover trail with spectacular views. First a hard 180 turn.
![H37 hard turn-P2080097.jpg H37 hard turn-P2080097.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69275-14b4a1b31b57636e387623b97a56983e.jpg)
![H38-backside at hard turn-P2081511.jpg H38-backside at hard turn-P2081511.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69276-7d976204037ea4f953aefbc6afe590b2.jpg)
Views are incredible here (good lunch spot), but I doubt the mountain bikers get to see that.... white marker to the left.
![H38-views backside towards Sedona-P2081527.jpg H38-views backside towards Sedona-P2081527.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69277-f2bef16784f5d55adad39287d9570c7b.jpg)
![H39-view bridge-P2081563.jpg H39-view bridge-P2081563.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69278-deed4a850ad774280baa6a11cdf1d6e3.jpg)
We never follow the bike line with white markers exactly- sometimes you need a different route as a hiker.
![H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg H1-Steep-Backside of Hangover-P2081569.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69254-546496cc368400a1eff3f6e89aa79366.jpg)
![H41-steep-P2081573.jpg H41-steep-P2081573.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69280-dff38c4234eda99ed8d8fb547c768098.jpg)
![H42-steep-P2081583.jpg H42-steep-P2081583.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69281-83240524d69bdf197ba1efdb0a835825.jpg)
Looking back up at the steep section.
![H43-steep-P2081611.jpg H43-steep-P2081611.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69282-e591982042908edf4ef78409cd553fe0.jpg)
Back side of Mitten ridge- or the side facing Munds Wagon trail. Lots of loose rocks and switchbacks on the return,
see second video, it shows the remaining trail better.
![H44- loose rock-single trail-P2081633.jpg H44- loose rock-single trail-P2081633.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69283-c966c1a24928b199113b022c8d815ac6.jpg)
We then enjoyed more water reflections on the way back:
![H9-reflection2-Munds Wagon-IMG_8230.jpg H9-reflection2-Munds Wagon-IMG_8230.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69236-8f242023a371a0333000f5f27c4bd7af.jpg)
And when the water flows- like in February 2017 there are few reflections, but a lot of this:
![H4-water running-2017-P2080548.jpg H4-water running-2017-P2080548.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69232-fd79fbdf0f54b3b3f2754a7a57648565.jpg)
![H6-water in creek-2017-P2080580.jpg H6-water in creek-2017-P2080580.jpg](https://backcountrypost.com/data/attachments/69/69233-56f16899a06d4d209764a4ba9a3539b7.jpg)
Hope you enjoyed the photos and the following MTB videos I found on-line.
So.... do we have any MTB'ers on BCP?
First video from Saddle to the steep section and the 180 turn:
Second part of the Hangover trail (from steep section down through the switchbacks)
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