Upper Salt Creek

pstm13

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Day 1:
We left the hotel at about 9:00 am with clear skies and drove to the Needles visitor’s center to obtain our permit.
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Newspaper Rock was on the way so we stopped and took a few pictures. At the visitor’s center, the ranger reviewed basic backcountry regulations and water availability. The permit is to be attached to your pack or tent in the event you have contact with a park ranger. Once we obtained our permit, we doubled back to Beef Basin Road and drove to the trailhead. On the way, we passed several mines that looked interesting but I do not know anything about them. The road is passable with a 2WD vehicle in good weather but was rough in several spots. The trailhead is not visible from the road. There is simply a place to park with no markings. I had to use my GPS to confirm that we were in the correct area. We arrived at the trailhead at about 11:30 am. Once in the parking area there is a trailhead sign with a logbook. When we arrived, it was snowing and cold. There were patches of snow on the butte and along the trail. As we hiked, the snow turned to hail and then rain as we made it deeper into the canyon.
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The initial trail is very steep with large rocks and it appears to have been washed out several times. My wife was initially reluctant to use a trek pole but eventually relented because of the terrain. We both used them religiously throughout the trip. Once at the bottom of the canyon and in Canyonlands National Park the trail quickly turns into a marsh with several stream crossings. With the added runoff from the rain and snow, we could not cross the stream without getting our feet wet and muddy. On the return trip, the weather was sunny and the water level dropped so there was no mud and much less water. Keeping our feet dry was not a problem. The trail can be difficult to follow at times. As a rule, just keep to the right side of the canyon and you will be fine. The trail deviates from the one marked on the topo map in spots so do not plan to follow the trail marked on the map blindly. As you get closer to Kirk’s cabin there is some possible rock art. To me it appeared that some is authentic and then it was defaced.
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Finally, Kirk’s cabin comes into view and the trail forks after the cabin. To divert to the campgrounds SC1 and SC2 the trail turns right into a small canyon away from the stream. Because of the weather, there are no pictures of our campsite at SC1. The distance from the trailhead to SC1 campground is approx. 4.64 miles and the hike took us about 2 ½ hours to complete.
Upon arrival at SC1 we were cold and wet. We set up camp, cooked dinner, and tried to dry out or cloths. In order to fix dinner I needed water and had to hike back to the stream. Because of the additional runoff from the rain, animal scat observed on the trail, and the fact that the marsh is upstream from the water collection point I was concerned about water quality. To deal with this I added bleach to the water in addition to filtering it. The water had a distinct swimming pool taste to it but it was comforting after seeing all the animal scat in the marsh as we hiked.
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Day 2
We took some additional time drying out our cloths, sleeping bags, and tent the morning of the second day. We did not leave camp until about 12:30 pm. The hike to SC3 was full of ruins, rock art, and arches. If you proceed past SC3 to the next canyon, you will see even more ruins and art.
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The trail was very flat or down hill except for one spot and went through a lot of high sagebrush along the bank of the creek. It moved back and forth between the right and left sides of the canyon. At some points, the trail was hard to follow.
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We relied on our GPS two or three times to find our way back to the trail. The sand and game trials made things a little confusing at times. As we hiked, it was very helpful to use as small pair of binoculars. The canyon walls are lined with ruins and rock art. At times, the trail takes you to the opposite side of the canyon. It was great to be able to spot ruins and art from a distance. In a nutshell, you will see a rock art panel across from Kirk’s cabin, a small set ruins just past the cabin, Big Ruins (15 min. diversion from main trail), several arches, Wedding Ring Arch, several other small ruins, the All American Man, the Four Faces and ruins, some cave ruins, the “squash” ruins, and other small ruins, cliff dwellings, and some rock art just past SC3 campground. We hiked about 8 ½ miles. It seemed that about every ½ mile we walked past an arch, ruin, or rock art. I am currently working on a list of sites with GPS coordinates. If you do not see them at the end of this post feel free to send me a message and I’ll get the list to you.
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Day 3
The morning of day three was very cold. The clear sky at night dropped the temperature to about 31. Eventually as the sun rose and warmed the canyon, we were able to filter water and get moving. Because of a schedule issue, we would be forced to hike out to Cathedral Butte from SC3 rather than just hike back to SC2 and out the next day. As we made it through the 11 ½ miles back to the trailhead, we saw several ruins and a few arches that we did not spot on the hike in to the area. Many of the ruins seem hidden while traveling from south to north and blend in with the canyon walls very well.
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Once again, it was helpful to refer back to the GPS when we lost the trail in the sand and ended up following deer tracks.
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We stopped at Kirk’s cabin for lunch and to filter water. It was then that we spotted the rock art panel with triangle shapes across the wash.
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The temperature rose to about 82 as we walked through the sandy riverbeds. The marsh was not an issue at all because the water level dropped after the rain and snow. The last mile of the hike out of the canyon to the trial was slow going. We finally made it back to the car at around 6:00pm that evening.


Trip Summary​
Trip: Upper Salt Creek-Canyonlands National Park
Permits: Reservations made in advance by fax (suggested) Cost-$30
Received conformation in mail with reservation number
Backcountry permit from Needles visitor’s center upon arrival
http://www.nps.gov/cany/planyourvisit/backcountrypermits.htm
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Trail Head: Entrance-Cathedral Butte
Exit-Cathedral Butte (not recommended)

Access: Beef Basin Rd

Timeframe: 3 days and 2 nights during the 1st Week of April 2013

Location: Day 1-Salt Creek 1
Day 2-Salt Creek 3
Day 3-Salt Creek 2 (planned but not used)

Weather: High temp. 82
Low temp. 31
Temp change: 51
Snow, hail, rain, on day 1
Sunny on day 2 and 3


Elevation: High-7103 ft
Low-5650 ft
Change-1453 ft

Cell Service: Very low signals at Big Ruins and Squash Ruins (I sent and received text messages and made one phone call with AT&T)

Distance: Day 1- 4.64 miles
Day 2-8.56 miles
Day 3-11.53 miles
Total-24.73 miles

Meals: Breakfast-oatmeal and brown sugar in seal a meal pouches
Lunch-beef jerky, granola bars, and trail mix in seal a meal pouches
Dinner-Backpacker’s Pantry freeze-dried meals (Kung Po Chicken and Cashew Chicken Curry)
Drinks-hot chocolate and apple cider
Snacks-Clif bars, Shot gel and bloks, trail mix, candy bars, Hi-Chews


Gear: McNett Frontier Pro filter with an extra bladder
Gerber 30-000469 Dime Mirco Tool
Maglite SP2P01H Mini PRO
Optimus Crux Lite with Terra Solo Cook Set and extra steel mug from Wal-Mart
Coghlan's 1005 Flint Striker ½ sticks
Outdoor Products 5x7 tarp
Outdoor Products trek poles
IPhone with home-made battery pack and GPS Kit App.
Coleman Rest Easy Camp Pad (cut in half)
Energizer headlamp
HI-TEC V-Lite 2-Person Tent
Suisse Sport Adventurer Mummy Bag
High Sierra and Kelty packs
Toasty Toes (my wife gives these an A+)
Small pair of binoculars
Nikon D90
Para cord
Other misc. supplies

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mike_offerman

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Great report! We had the same itinerary as you did, though we did spend the 3rd night at SC2. What day did you start out on?
 

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Very cool! Get's me stoked for my trip to Salt Creek this spring. Curious about the big panel you found near Kirk's Cabin. Got any pics or were your batteries dead then?
 

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Very cool! Get's me stoked for my trip to Salt Creek this spring. Curious about the big panel you found near Kirk's Cabin. Got any pics or were your batteries dead then?
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I didn't hike over to it because of time constraints so no pictures. However, I have seen some floating around the internet. If you are standing on the rocks of the little waterfall near the cabin it is on the rock wall to the north west on the other side of the wash. The pic above has the approx. GPS coordinates. You will need binoculars to see the panel.
 

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Very cool! Get's me stoked for my trip to Salt Creek this spring. Curious about the big panel you found near Kirk's Cabin. Got any pics or were your batteries dead then?
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My wife took one from a distance. I hope it helps.
 

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Ahh yeah. I think Cody might have scrambled over that way when we were there. The wash is quite the obstacle in that part of the canyon! Definitely going to try to check it out though.
 

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We went over there and explored from there to the South. There was one little panel directly across from the waterfall and pool. Not really worth the bushwhack down there though. Just getting across the drainage is a battle!
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We went over there and explored from there to the South. There was one little panel directly across from the waterfall and pool. Not really worth the bushwhack down there though. Just getting across the drainage is a battle!
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Thanks for the info. I'll adjust the trip report.
 

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I took a picture of some pottery at Big Ruin and noticed that there appears to be finger prints pressed into the clay. I was taken back a little bit by the thought of seeing the prints of the person who made this pot several hundred years ago.

Do the marks look like fingerprints to anyone else or am I way off base?
 

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Ahh yeah. I think Cody might have scrambled over that way when we were there. The wash is quite the obstacle in that part of the canyon! Definitely going to try to check it out though.

I looked around there a little but the brush was so thick, bear tracks everywhere, and it was getting dark. I would have liked to look around some more. Neat place.
 

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Who knows maybe the jagged edges represent bear teeth... :)
 

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We went over there and explored from there to the South. There was one little panel directly across from the waterfall and pool. Not really worth the bushwhack down there though. Just getting across the drainage is a battle!
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It looks very similar to the art panel between SC3 and Upper Jump.
 

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I did upper Salt Creek a slightly different way. As usual with me, time constraints affected how I did this.
This was a Memorial Day weekend I think it was 2009.
Saturday, drive to Hamburger Rock campground outside of Needles. Camp there.
Sunday, get permits for SC1 for two nights. We were told no other permits had been issued for the entire canyon. I asked why no one else was there and they said everyone else goes in April and early May and most of the time by Memorial weekend is too hot. Fortunately for us this Memorial weekend was unusually comfortable.
So we drove out the Beef Basin road. The road was in good shape but my friend told me he had been on this road after a rain and it was like driving on chicken grease.
So we drove to the Cathedral Butte TH, signed in and headed down. Neither of us had done this before, so we enjoyed the amazing view downcanyon.
When you get to the park boundary all the maps show a trail coming in from the left (southwest), but we saw no sign of any trail. I wonder if it is findable on the other end of it.
We found all the other items mentioned by others above. Kirk's cabin, the huge spring and pool, Kirk's arch, the hands, so I won't go into detail on these since it is already well covered above. Kelsey mentions Kirk's hay rake, but I didn't find that.
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We then walked up without packs to Big Ruin. Getting across the creek was a bit of a challenge. But a pretty cool place with lots of stuff lying around.
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So then we walked back to SC1 for dinner and sleep.
At dinner time we were inundated by gnats. It was so bad we took our food up onto the slickrock above SC1 to be in the breeze where the gnats weren't. We also watched the sunset from up there. Very nice.

So then the next day we hiked without packs to All American man. Without packs we made great time. We climbed up the crack and took a lot of pictures of course.
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This left us lots of time to explore other places off the trail. Our favorite one was the one with the squash growing. That is pretty cool. We also went into some of the other side canyons and saw some other structures. Some were extremely high and we marveled about how the residents would get up and down.
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So then we walked back to SC1 for another night.
Then the next day we hiked out back to Cathedral Butte TH first thing in the morning before it got hot. This was a good idea as it was starting to get warmer and doing a 1500 foot climb at 8am still in the shade was easier than later in the day.
So while this trip didn't cover the territory that others do, and we did miss everything past All American Man, we did have the luxury to be able to have the time to explore off path, look into the nooks and crannies, poke around cliff dwellings, take a lot of pictures, and just enjoy the space without seeing another person or another footprint the whole time. For me it was a memorable trip.
 
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