Gear Review Sea Eagle Fast Track 385 Inflatable Kayak Review

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    2014 Sea Eagle Fast Track 385ft Review

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    My Rating: 5 out of 5 Stars
    Suggested Price: $1658
    Actual Price: $1199.00 direct from Sea Eagle

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    During our 2014 trip planning meeting, my friends and I decided the highlight of the year would be a 4-day paddling trip in Labyrinth Canyon in Moab. None of us had boats at the time, and we realized we had a lot of research to do. We considered renting, but in the end we decided to purchase our own boats since we want to do more river trips. This meant decide between a hardshell or inflatable kayak (IK). After weighing the pros and cons, we decided that inflatables were going to meet our needs better than anything else. Now we just needed to decide which boat to purchase...

    I first stumbled upon Sea Eagle boats when looking for cheap inflatables for this trip. Their Sport Inflatable Kayaks like the 330 kept popping up as great cheap first boats. After looking on their site, the Fast Track 385 really stood out and seemed like the perfect option for this trip. I initially purchased an Aire Tributary Sawtooth I inflatable for this trip. I found a good deal and it was on sale. However, I was able to get in touch with Sea Eagle and they offered to loan us two boats for review. We brought one sawtooth and two Sea Eagle 385FTs (Fast Tracks) for the trip.

    At the time of this review, the 385ft Pro Package included:

    (1) boat
    (2) tall back seats
    (2) 8' AB40 4-piece paddles
    (1) kayak carry bag
    (2) small kayak stow bags (which we chose not to use)
    (1) A41 foot pump
    (1) slide in tracking fin
    (1) repair kit

    Sea Eagle also sent us their Trolley Bag to hold and transport the boats and all their accessories. In short, the boat packages includes everything you need except water and a PFD.

    The feature that sets the Fast Track apart from all other inflatable kayaks is their patented inflatable keel at the bow of the boat. The keel is designed to keep the boat pointed on a straight course even under heavy paddling. For 2014, Sea Eagle made the Fast Track keel more streamlined and pointed in the front. They refer to this as the "needleknife keel." Compared to previous models, this new needleknife keel appears to cut through the water with less resistance, reducing drag.

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    The Fast Track is built with 1000 denier reinforced fabric (tough enough to hit with a hammer or drive over with a car). They use a quadruple overlap seam for durability. The boat measures 12.5 feet long, 3 feet wide, and weighs 32 lbs. The Fast Track is suited for flatwater up to class 2 rapids. The Fast Track 385 can be run as a a tandem or single -seater kayak.



    Sea Eagle has done a great job illustrating the features of their boats online. However, there is no substitute for actually handling it in person. These were my initial thoughts as I unboxed the new kayak for the first time:
    • It's very lightweight; noticeably lighter than my other IK.
    • Construction looks pretty good. I'd rate it an 8/10. It looked strong and tough where it needed to be, but the attention to detail was lacking a little bit in a few areas.
    • The patches that hold a couple of the D-rings on were glued well, but they weren't centered, and I wondered if they might pull off with a lot of force.
    • The boat has a mixture of metal and plastic d-rings. The metal d-rings are found wherever a seat may attach, and the plastic d-rings are found everywhere else. I'm not a fan of the plastic d-rings, I'd prefer to see metal d-rings all around.
    • The shock cord was far thicker and more substantial than I had assumed it would be.
    • I was surprised to see the drop stitch floor was a separate piece from the boat. This is good news for cleaning. I also found the drop stitch floor to be thicker than I had anticipated. It is 3 to 4" thick when inflated.
    • I like the way the valves have a threaded cap to open and remove them. Sea Eagle told us that these valves were not self-bailing valves, rather convenience valves for draining any water in the boat. They are not meant to be left open while paddling.
    • I had seen previous models with paddle keepers on the side of the boat and I was expecting them on this model. The 2014 model does not have paddle keepers.
    • Construction on the bottom near the drain valves wasn't perfect, it looked like the material wasn't completely tucked in near the edges of the valve.
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    • The fin is a rough ABS plastic. I was hoping it was sleeker, shiny, smoother. However, I really like the retaining clip on the fin and how easily it slips in.
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    • The carry handles look sturdy.
    • The paddle is a little bit heavier than I was hoping. When I heard it was a 4 piece paddle, I assumed it was a 4-piece shaft, rather than a 2 piece shaft with paddles that click in to the last 2". I was initially fearful that this design would compromise the strength of the paddle, but it turned out to be a non-issue. The paddles proved to be super sturdy throughout the review.
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    The boats were incredibly easy to inflate and set up the first time. Our reviewers were surprised at how quickly they went together. I have no doubt a five year-old could set up these boats with a little practice. The included foot pump is vastly superior to the hand pump I was used to using with my other IK. I'm sure I could have put the boats together without instructions, but Sea Eagle's Set Up Video made wetup a breeze. I wish every gear company had the video support that Sea Eagle does.

    As I set it up the first time, several things caught my attention:
    • The seat is adjustable forward and back. I was afraid it would be stuck in a position I didn't want, but I was wrong. It's very adjustable and it can be moved to almost any spot on the boat. The adjustment straps were easy to adjust.
    • Once inflated, the boat really took shape and looked like a high quality boat. It didn't look cheesy at all. One of our reviewers said the quality was better than any other IK she had seen.
    • I initially thought the grey cinch sack was pretty cheap looking. That all changed when it was time to put the boat away. The cinch sack is not new technology in any way, but I couldn't imagine packing the boat up without it. It really helps pull the entire thing together and keeps it compact. The cinch sack is high quality and very useful.
    • The air valves are the same valves that I have on my other IK, and I love them. They're rebuildable and easily serviced in the field if needed.
    • The blunt nose looks like it could take all the abuse you could dish out and then some. I love it. I have no worries about running into things.
    • One of the greatest features to me is the ability to attach the tracking fin after the boat is fully inflated. A lot of other IKs have a poor fin attachment system that requires you to semi-inflate the floor, insert the tracking fin in some flaps of fabric, then finish inflation; relying on friction to hold it in place. We have lost more than one fin this way in the past. The sea eagle has the best fin attachment system we've seen. It's especially handy when setting up and taking down. The retaining clip works extremely well.
    • I love that the included pump is limited to 3.5 psi, ensuring I can't over-inflate the boat. Other IKs make you rely on pricey pressure gauges or subjective evaluations about how much pressure is in them. The drop-stitch floor can handle pressures up to 10.5 psi, but the included foot pump can only inflate it to 3.5 psi, which seemed to be plenty for calm water.
    • I really like that the construction is not a "bladder in a bag" type like some other IKs. This makes washing, drying, and overall weight much better.
    • It seems trivial, but I love having the air valves at the bow of the boat. My other IK has them at the back, and when you're all loaded up with gear and you need to add air, the back valves are almost always covered. Valves at the front are far more convenient for me.


    Our reviewers took the boat out on three different trips in three different conditions.


    Trip 1: Labyrinth Canyon Moab, UT
    45 miles. Calm moving river (class I) - 3 days, 2 nights Review by sixstringsteve​



    I don't think there's a better boat for this trip. The river was a class I flowing at a steady 2.5 knots (3 mph). We covered 45 miles in 3 days. We carried all our food, water, shelter, and supplies in our boats. We ran the boats as a single-man to leave room for gear.

    The shock cord straps on the bow and stern were perfect for our 38 L dry bags. They were just the right shape, and with a little practice we were able to secure or remove our dry bags in seconds. We were able to stash our portable toilets, extra 3 gal of water, and misc supplies under the spray skirts on the bow and stern of the boats. The seat-back pocket was stuffed to the brim, and it proved to be extremely handy since it was within arm's reach.

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    The moment I launched the boat I realized that all the claims to stability were spot on; this boat is rock-solid stable. It has fantastic initial and secondary stability. We were even able to stand up in the boat without losing our balance. I was never worried about flipping the boat, even when climbing all around to adjust my gear. When you spend 3 days on a river, you're going to get tired of sitting in the same exact spot all day. You have to move around the boat to access all your gear while on the water. The stability allowed us to crawl around on the boat, adjusting positions, removing dry bags from storage even in the middle of the river, and even allowing us to lie down and nap on the boat.

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    The size of the 385ft was just right for one person and 3 days of gear. The boats were easy to navigate and maneuver, yet they had plenty of room for our gear. I could have loaded twice as much gear easily and still been very comfortable. Granted, we are backpackers and we pack light, so if you're a heavy packer you're going to have less room than we have. If you're used to a giant 20' 8 man raft with three coolers on it, you're going to be disappointed because you can't pack like that on a kayak. However, these boats are rated to carry 635 lbs of people and gear, and I believe it. Loading the boat up with our gear didn't make it handle any different. I have no doubt it could handle the claimed weight, especially when you inflate the drop stitch floor to 10 psi. I never wished for the kayak to be bigger, and I think a smaller model would have been slower and wouldn't have allowed me to stretch out and nap.

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    When reading specs online, I was worried that the 36" width would be excessive and make it difficult to paddle. I was completely wrong. I initially started paddling with my 230 cm Carlisle paddle, and I found that the paddle was too short for the boat; it didn't quite get around the sides. Once I swapped my paddle out for the included Sea Eagle paddle, it felt just right. This just re-emphasizes how well Sea Eagle matched their paddle with these boats. The paddles were great, and they didn't feel cheap or flimsy at all like I had expected. I now have zero reservations about the paddles.

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    On this trip we learned how crucial it is to fully inflate the boat. The included foot pump maxes out at 3.5 psi, which is the boat's limit. At one point, we had to pull over to top off a boat that hadn't been fully inflated. The difference in performance between a 95% inflated boat and a 100% inflated boat was night and day. Make sure you max out your foot pump pressure when inflating.

    The drop stitch floor is my favorite feature of this boat. After a day of paddling, the boat gets dirty and wet inside. Due to the design of the removable drop stitch floor, when water gets in the boat, it sneaks in under the floor and in the cracks on the sides and pools in the drain. You don't realize the water is there until it's time to pack up the boat. This means the floor stays completely dry. I left the two drain holes at the stern closed while paddling, but I opened them at the end of each day to drain any excess water that had collected. Two drains seemed to be the right number for this boat. Any more drains would be too much, and any fewer would be not enough.

    The flat nature of the drop stitch floor is a huge improvement over the other IKs I've used. My other boat has a foot-ball shaped floor, with a hump in the middle that you sit on. The flat floor of the Fast Track made it easy to store gear without it sliding around or getting wet. It also made it climbing around in the boat much easier. The drop stitch floor truly sets this boat apart from most of the IKs on the market. I only know of one other company using a drop stitch floor.

    When encountering rough water, the other IKs I've tried ride like one of those banana raft toys you tow behind your ski boat. The drop stitch floor made the boat ride rigid, almost like a true hard shell kayak. When we hit mild rapids and waves, the boat didn't flex because the floor was so solid. I can only imagine how solid it would feel at 10 psi.

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    The seat is slim without much padding, but it's very functional and surprisingly comfortable for the first day or two. The low seating position allows you to sit lower in the boat and keep a low COG. Considering that the seat sits on the drop stitch floor, you get a slight amount of cushion from the floor. After 3 days on the water, we were looking any new positions to sit in; our bodies were stiff when we stayed in one position too long. Halfway through the trip I was wishing I had the deluxe seat to try for a different position. Seeing we only had one type of seat, we got creative and stacked gear to get a higher seating position to rest our hips and knees.

    This boat is very durable. The few durability issues we had weren't with the air chambers, it was with the attachments. We hit rocks, branches, weeds, debris in the water, and it didn't show any signs of damage. The tracking fin was firmly attached, and we didn't have any worries about losing it (unlike my other IK, which lost its tracking fin at one point on the trip). We were able to continue paddling in water less than 12" deep. We scraped the fin on rocks, sand, trees, with nothing more than minor scratches to show for it. The tracking fin is the perfect size. It allowed me to get into really shallow water, but still did its job.

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    The kayak paddled straight as an arrow. In fact, at times I felt like it tracked a little too straight. Prior to this trip, I didn't think there was a thing as a kayak tracking too straight, but at times I wished for slightly quicker handling to spin around. The Fast Track is still plenty maneuverable, but I could definitely feel the keel doing its job to keep us straight. My other IK is slightly more maneuverable but it doesn't track quite as straight as the Fast Track. It would be fun to compare the Fast Track to the Sea Eagle Explorer which is similar but without a keel. For rougher water, I feel that I would want more maneuverability that I could get with the Fast Track. That being said, for this type of water, the fast track is the better option. One reviewer mentioned how easy it was for her to paddle and maneuver, despite limited experience kayaking on a river. I'm glad that Sea Eagle revised their old keel to be pointier. Even with the new needlenose keel, there is a slight noticeable drag at high speeds. I imagine the older models had even more drag.

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    The Fast Track is a fast boat. It's on par with the quickest IKs made at the moment. Top speed and acceleration were on par with my other IK, which is also known for its fast speed. The Fast Track truly lived up to its name. However, once I hit max speed, the keel would make a little wake in front of the boat and I felt like it was limiting my overall speed ever so slightly. Glide was awesome on this boat. I couldn't believe how long it would coast after finishing paddling.

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    When you compare this boat side by side with a whitewater boat, it's clear that this boat has much thinner side tubes. Sea Eagle recently improved the Fast Track to make it slimmer in the front. This did two things: it lowered the weight, and it lowered the profile of the bow of the boat. We had plenty of high winds on this trip, and I was grateful we had low profile boats that sat low in the water. There's nothing worse than paddling into a headwind and having the wind push your boat.

    I quickly realized on this trip that I needed a better way to store little items like sunblock, snacks, water, camera batteries, books, etc. The behind-the-seat bag is fantastic, but I needed something in front of me that was easier to reach. I used a zippered tool bag from my home improvement store, but it wasn't ideal. Just after we received our boats, we noticed that Sea Eagle released the multi-purpose kayak storage box, which would have been the perfect solution to storing all our clutter.

    When disassembling the boat, we were really impressed with how easy it was to clean. The removable drop stitch floor was really helpful for getting all the sand out of the boat. The light grey color of the boat showed mud stains a little more than we would like, but overall it cleaned up quickly and nicely.

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    Trip 2: Lake Powell - Glen Canyon Recreation Area
    Supported by a pontoon boat. Reviewed by Nick.​

    I fell in love with the inflatable kayak on this trip, it was extraordinary. It handled two paddlers with ease, even with me who is pretty much two people alone!

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    I did quite a bit of paddling around and tried dumping it and re-boarding in deep water and I was able to pretty easily.
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    The dogs also liked it.

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    This was Nikita's first time in a kayak. She loved it. She loved the whole trip actually, which is particularly awesome because of her age and inability to get around these days.

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    She spent the whole time just walking the shoreline, looking for fish. The boat just made it easier for her.

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    I liked it so much that I think I'm selling both of my hard shell kayaks and rack now to invest in these. Love love love it.

    Trip 3: Green River Section A (Flaming Gorge Dam to Little Hole)
    7 miles. Fast moving river (class 3). Review by ashergrey


    My brother and I ran the Fast Tracks down Green River "Section A" (Flaming Gorge Dam to Little Hole). This is a seven-mile, mostly class I+ float at normal levels. However, we encountered II+ conditions as the Bureau of Reclamation had increased outflows from the dam to 8,600 cfs the day before we launched. This meant fast-moving currents and bigger-than-usual waves.

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    General impressions were positive. The boat has great primary stability and takes real effort to roll. It is very forgiving to cross-currents. As a novice river paddler, stuff that would have flipped me in a hardshell whitewater kayak barely made the Sea Eagle turn. Big wave trains were fun and felt relatively safe. I bailed once on a big wave and was easily able to pull myself back into the boat in the middle of the rapid.
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    I concur that the provided paddles are better than expected. While a bit on the heavy side, they are the perfect width for the boat.

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    The bailing system struggles in situations where repeated waves come over the top. If enough water enters the boat, it can force the floor to come loose. It will still be held in place by the seat, but will float as if the top piece of bread in a sandwich. Both my brother and I had to stop and manually bail the Fast Tracks. There could have been user error involved, but we were never able to get the bailing valves to do much.
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    When full of water, the Fast Tracks become slow tracks. Because of the additional weight, they can become sluggish and difficult to maneuver. This reduced my confidence during a key stretch of rapids. The straps securing the seats also slipped loose during high-stress situations. Again, there could have been some user error in the set-up.

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    On the positive side, the provided seat-back stowage and deck bags seem useful. Gear-carrying capacity seemed adequate for single riders. In tandem mode, that would obviously be reduced.

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    For flat water or class I moving water, I can see the Fast Tracks serving people very well. I wouldn't hesitate to use this boat for lake trips or mellow river floats like Labyrinth.



    Suggested Improvements

    No product is perfect, and the Sea Eagle Fast Track is no exception. While we still feel it is the ideal vessel for slow moving rivers and lakes, there are a few things that we would like to see improved.

    At one point in the trip, we were lifting the boat out of the water using its grab handles. This was the first time using the handle, and one of them ended up breaking. It wasn't a catastrophic failure, but the stitching came out leaving the nearby d-ring floating around. When we contacted Sea Eagle about this, they offered to replace the entire boat free of charge. We didn't think it was a big enough issue to warrant an entire replacement, but we appreciate their warranty and excellent customer service!

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    At first I was concerned about the stitching near the floor of the boat. It looked like the stitching was broken, but after I contacted Sea Eagle about this, and they assured me that it is part of the manufacturing process. The stitching is used during the manufacturing process to keep everything in alignment until the glue fully cures and then the stitching is released (cut loose) so that the hull can take it's designed shape. So don't worry about the missing threads at the bottom of your boat, it's purely cosmetic, and I'll bet you wouldn't notice if you weren't looking for it.

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    While we never had any problems with the plastic d-rings, I'd like to see all of them made out of metal. I would also like to see a few more d-rings, particularly near the floor area. This would be especially handy for tying down gear behind the seat in the event of a roll (highly unlikely with the stability of these boats). Sea Eagle offers d-rings you can glue on yourself, and I could see myself adding a couple of these this in the future.

    We feel the Trolley Bag was not built to the same quality as the boat. The bag was quite functional and convenient, but the zippers and materials made it feel like like cheap luggage you'd find at a discount store. The wheels weren't quite big enough to handle sandy and rocky shore conditions. The mesh bottoms to each pocket allow it to drain any excess water, which we really liked. These bags would be best for people who are struggling to keep their IK gear organized and need an extra hand getting their boat to the water.

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    One other thing I'd love to see on the Fast Track is paddle keepers. On our trip, we did a lot of relaxing and floating without paddling. The paddles were often in the way and we struggled to find a comfortable place to stash them when they weren't needed.


    Conclusion

    In conclusion, the Sea Eagle Fast Track 385 is a fantastic boat for flatwater and calm rivers. It is a high quality kayak that feels nothing like a pool toy. It has proved more than adequate for multi-day adventures, quick side trips in Lake Powell, and mellow river running. Despite a fit and finish that left us wanting, the overall performance of these kayaks overshadowed all construction shortcomings. We have no worries about the strength and longevity of these boats.

    When pushed past their Class II rating, the Fast Tracks quickly became overwhelmed. If you are looking for a whitewater boat, the Sea Eagle Explorer should be far better suited for those conditions.

    When viewing the informative videos on Sea Eagle's website, the boat almost sounds too good to be true. The videos almost sound like an infomercial. I can assure you that these boats are NOT infomercial material. These are the finest flatwater IK I have ever experienced. They handled 45 miles on the Green River through Moab for 3 days without a hiccup. Ihave no doubt they would handle 30+ days on the river.

    The technology in these boats really sets them apart from other IKs. The needlenose keel, drop stitch floor, and the durable fabric combine to create a sturdy, stable, and fast boat. I don't know of another IK that can compare in flat and calm water. When you factor in Sea Eagle's 180 day risk-free satisfaction policy, and it really becomes a no-brainer.

    The fact that 3 of our 4 reviewers sold their personal boats to purchase Sea Eagles should say something about how we feel about them. The Fast Tracks have spoiled me and they will be the new benchmark for my standard of Inflatable Kayaks.

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    Photos by @sixstringsteve, @Nick, @ashergrey and @neiloro


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Comments

Discussion in 'Gear Reviews' started by steve, Jun 26, 2014.

    1. Nick
      Nick
      Fantastic review, Steve! Incredibly comprehensive! I slacked on contributing more thoughts before you got it posted, so let me share more here.

      Like I said above, I am super impressed with these kayaks. I kind of thought my Pungo 140 hard shell was near the top of the heap when it comes to stability, but after trying these, I can't go back. Both of my hard shells and kayak rack are up for sale right now because of it.

      There are three things that struck me the most about these boats:

      1. Stability! WOW! I'm a big guy, and I actually had to try so hard to dump this thing. And once I did, I was able to actually get back into the boat! I've tried that with my hard shells and have never even come close. That last pic is a good example. Even with Sage jumping off, the boat is not tipping.

      2. Weight and space is awesome. When I floated Labyrinth last year in my hard shell, I had it so far over the weight limit that I was only giving myself a 50/50 chance that it would actually float when I launched. This thing has more than double the weight limit of that and more than any other IK that I've come across since (I've been shopping!). Perfect for long, multi-night trips with lots of gear, but like Steve said, no coolers!

      In addition to the weight, the space was great too. In my hard shell, I get leg cramps and I can't twist around and grab thinks without dumping the boat. In this, I can sit with my legs crossed, or even off the side of the boat and stability is a non-issue. My wife is a bit water-phobic, and she loved this kayak as much as I did. She strongly supported selling our hard shells after trying them.

      3. Portability. Ever since I bought my pontoon boat, I've been trying to figure out a way to attach a kayak to the boat. Well this solves that AND kicks my hard shells to the curb at the same time. I could bring 4 of these on a boat trip! Love it!
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    2. Dave
      Dave
      Great comprehensive review. It was a pleasure to take part in the field testing.
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    3. steve
      steve
      Thank you for your valuable input, it added a lot to the review.
    4. Curt
      Curt
      I've been very interested in IK's and so I read this report with great interest. I'll probably reread it a couple times!

      I'm interested because IK's look like they would be suitable for the streams and rivers around here. I like how portable they appear to be. The ability to be able to handle shallow draft is essential. I was concerned about the removable keel in that respect. The ability to survive striking invisible underwater objects and dragging on sand bars would also be essential requirements. These last two requirements had me concerned that an IK would be durable enough. So, I was pleased to see that the Sea Eagle Fasttrak can handle a 12" draft without taking off the keel and that the keel removal isn't difficult if the boat would have to negotiate something shallower. Also the fact that the boat is designed to withstand mild rapids gives reassurance for adequate durability.

      Thanks everyone for your reports. Good information.
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    5. steve
      steve
      it's PLENTY durable for dragging and banging across stuff underwater. Check this out (this appears to be an explorer model, but the fast track shares the same construction technique and materials).



      To be clear, the keel is the front blade. It's not removable. It inflates with the foot pump. The tracking fin on the rear is removable.

      If you're going to be running a lot of rapids (over class 2), then the Sea Eagle Explorer might be a better fit. The Fast Track is meant to cover lots of distance quickly and straight (think lake powell, flat rivers, etc). The Explorer still has the drop stitch floor, larger pontoons than the FT (making it more prone to catching wind), more drain valves (that actually help with self-bailing), and still has the removable tracking fin. So it doesn't have the inflatable keel up front. This means that if you remove the tracking fin you can probably get into some uber shallow spots.

      We'll be doing a full review of the Sea Eagle Explorer in the coming months, and it should give you a good idea of how the two compare. If we plan it right, we might even be able to do a shootout between an Explorer and a Fast Track around different obstacles in different situations. We'll see how that all pans out.
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    6. Nick
      Nick
      That's an awesome video of the durability! The hammer and cinder block didn't surprise me much, but the jeep!?
    7. Curt
      Curt
      That was an impressive video - especially the jeep.

      I don't expect to run any rapids. My target water ways are the Missouri River which is a big river and the Platte river which is so heavily irrigated that most of the year it runs nearly dry. But as long as the major part of Colorado snow melt is under way there's enough water that I think a person could get something with a very shallow draft down it. There are a few other smaller rivers and some lakes around that I would want to try. Tracking straight would count for a lot on all of these. Low wind exposure would count for a lot on all of these too since its usually windy here.

      I really like how the boats can carry enough gear for a multiday trip. I also like how they're open and don't restrict your legs. I think the leg restriction is a big downside for hard shell kayaks. The comments about seat adjustments for finding a comfortable position after having paddled for a day or two caught my attention. My experience with kayaks is that they can cause misery if you're in them very long, but it didn't sound like anyone was miserable, so I saw that as a plus also. Uncomfortable is a lot better than miserable! And you could actually stand and stretch your legs if you need to. I was astounded that the boat is stable enough that you can actually stand in it. Amazing!

      I'll be looking for the Explorer review. A shoot out between an Explorer and a Fast Track would be very interesting too. Thanks for the info and your comments.
    8. steve
      steve
      For your needs, I think the Fast Track would be the ideal boat.
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    9. jentzschman
      jentzschman
      Amazing review! Thank you for the information and time spent putting this together.
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    10. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      I have the 2014 465 solar package. I added the Velcro paddle holders. In some rough waves one came loose and I didn't notice. Unfortunately I only had a leash on the one I was using. In short, either also use a leash or find a better way to secure the paddles. The Velcro does not hold tight.

      For those with sport cameras, Scotty now makes a camera mount. I added an extension arm and the sound from the tubes actually echoed up to the mic. Love the mount but will need to figure out how to make a damper.

      Loved your review.
    11. steve
      steve
      Good feedback Dori, thanks. Sea Eagle told me they stopped putting the velcro holders on the new boats because of that very issue. It sounds like a good thing this didn't come with the velcro keepers.

      Sea Eagle sent me a little bungee daisy chain they recommended to secure the paddles. So far I haven't used it, but it looks like a decent solution.

      Cool idea about the scotty camera mount, that sounds awesome.

      I'm currently paddling a Sea Eagle Explorer 380x to see how it compares to the Fast Track.
    12. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      In a strong wind, the inflatable keel really makes a difference. Without it the wind catches the bow and wants to turn the boat. I debated between the explorer and FT. Glad I went with the FT for that very reason. When I white water, I can always rent (or patch my ancient inflatable raft). Looking forward to your review.
    13. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      For those interested....

      365 vs 465: If you are older and want to be able to stretch your legs with 2 adults onboard, go with the 465. 365 is much easier for one person to paddle while you can carry a lot more gear with the 465. The only time I've had any problem solo paddling the 465 was in a high wind and very strong current.

      Seats: I have a bad back so I ordered the deluxe camping/fishing seats. When fully inflated, not the best. Let a little air out and they are perfect.

      EZ Cart: Do not put the skeg on when using the cart. It will drag and over asphalt/concrete wear very quickly. Wheels are not suited for sand.

      Torpedo Ultra light: Due to my back, it isn't safe for me to be on the water without a motor. I went with the torqeedo so I wouldn't have to lug around a heavy battery. Does not do well in choppy water but just fine on calm water. I generally keep it at 3.5 MPH. I changed their setup of the tilt line to an actual tilt line so I don't have to reach behind me to tilt the motor up.

      Solar Panel: Sea Eagle ships a 23 watt, not a 45 watt panel. Not sure this would allow you to run on a dead battery. At 3.5 MPH with a lite load and full sun, I gain about 3 hours usage. If your shadow covers the panel, charging is almost 0. Can be mounted to bow or stern. At the bow leg room is decreased. Motor mount also decreases leg room.

      Battery: It can be dropped easily. I use the included sea eagle strap to make a handle.
    14. Tim Moss
      Tim Moss

      Hi Dori -

      wow, very interesting tips. I also want to go for a torqueedo to give me a bit more range but the dealer here says the ultralight is not compatible with a transom motor mount like on the sea eagles - how have you mounted it? can you send pics? Woudl be much appreciated.
    15. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      Sea Eagle makes a motor mount for the torqeedo. I have mine all packed away for the winter or I would take a photo. You can see it at sea eagle.com (Solar FastTrack). If you already own a fast track, you would need to call them to order it as its not sold in their accessories section. You can order it with a new FastTrack.
    16. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      Checked to see if any of my video happened to capture the motor mount. For the most part all you can see is the solar panel. The mount is basically a bench seat with U-bolts where the torqeedo arm slips into, an eye ring for the tilt line, cleat for the reverse line and 2 holes for the solar panel.

      First month I got a great deal of extra time with the solar panel, then not so much. You can daisy-chain panels so I was thinking next year to add one to the bow so I would have 45 watts.

      A few weeks ago I went upstream in a river with a pretty good current, kept it at 2.5 miles per hour and used an Ave. of 95 watts. When I turned and headed downstream the speed went up to 3.1 mph and the wattage ranged from 19 to 65 (a gusty side wind had picked up). So theoretically, if I kept it under 23 watts, I should have been able to go all day in full sun with a dead battery....granted at times not very fast.

      Due to my back, I either stay on land or have a motor on my boat. After I bought my Sea Eagle, Hobie came out with an inflatable (http://www.hobiecat.com/mirage/mirage-i12s/) in 3 sizes and all can use the torqeedo evolve motor or the version that attaches to the rudder....i.e.: much less setup/takedown time with the evolve. Not many reviews of the inflatable mirage available but the hard shell version is a nice kayak.

      It takes me longer to mess with the motor mount than it does to get the kayak inflated or deflated. The tiller arm for the fast track is also a pain in the butt. To make a turn to starboard, I have to bring it behind my back. In the spring I am going to try and make a better tiller system.
    17. Tim Moss
      Tim Moss
      Many thanks Dori. Still not clear on it and the vids dont show the detail. I was thinking of jury-rigging a short tiller for an ultralight. I think a 403 is going to be a bit too heavy.
    18. Dori Coplien
      Dori Coplien
      Most of the weight is the battery. The motor is only 9.9 pounds. The battery is just over 12 pounds. For hard shells the motor mounts to a ball similar to a trailer hitch ball. It ships with the motor. I wish Sea Eagle's mount made use of it. I've been thinking of trying to make one next spring although I would still have the hassle of getting the bench under the straps. When I want to just take it out for a day, then deflate, it is just too much hassle. I'm so fed up with that that I am seriously considering an inflatable Hobie Mirage with an evolve motor.
    19. Nick
      Nick
      It's been over a year now and I just felt like updating this thread since I've gotten more experience with the Sea Eagle Fast Tracks. I am more impressed than I was to start out with. They've gotten quite a bit of use between me and loaning them out and they are still in great shape. This past weekend we paddled quite a bit with 3 people plus a dog and it did great. I swear I could take a full-size cooler, all my gear and fit it all in here for a long trip down the Green or similar. And the stability is second to none. Really, really impressed with these!

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