Thanks guys, truly appreciate your kindness! I figured that there was no easy route between the two drainages looking at the USFS map and on Google Earth. I saw pictures of the meadow at the end of Open Creek and was trying to fit it into my route, even though it was a stretch to add mileage wise, because it looked so incredible. Probably will just cut it out and save for another trip that I don't plan to meander around so much on. Looking to make this one a loop out of Turpin for 8 or 9 nights and honestly don't need to or want to add any technical bits.. will just use the time and 20+ miles saved by not going down Open Creek to add leisure to my pace and enjoy camp more.