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we already had a few different test runs before COVID happenedI definitely see a permit system incoming
Agreed. I don't think any other option would be viable. I keep imagining it being like like an amusement park where you have to wait in line or get the fast pass or somethingI definitely see a permit system incoming
Wow. I had no idea it was already like that. That photo is wild.July 2019, just the beginning of the line to go up to Angels Landing
I worked the line that entire holiday weekend and wait times were up to 6 hours to go up to Angels Landing
The picture was taken at the Grotto trailhead and the line was four times as long as in the picture.
That's how Angels Landing often is in the summer.
Right now we have several hundreds of visitors each day, parking was full each weekday at about 10:15 am when the shuttle was not running
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yeah, we controlled the line. We let 10 people about every 10 minutes and again after some people returned.Oh my gosh - we were there in June 2009 and it was not like that at all. Were all those people in line because someone (you, @Yvonne?) was serving as gatekeeper and letting people in as others were leaving, or something like that? I wonder if there will be a permit system like the one at Half Dome? Is it similarly crowded to walk up the Narrows?
Thank you for your efforts and hard work!yeah, we controlled the line. We let 10 people about every 10 minutes and again after some people returned.
And I was actually convincing and thinned out the lines quite a bit and rerouted them to other hikes, lol
We started that year giving out stamps like at night clubs but that didn't work so well. We then started handing out timed tickets a few weeks later. We were supposed to pick up with that last year during the summer, but COVID had different plans.
Hopefully at one point this year we can pick up where we left and test out more systems. At one point it definitely will move to a permit system.
I was just talking today to a colleague who will be going to southern Utah over spring break (end of March/beginning of April). They're going to Zion and want to hike Angel's Landing. @Yvonne, would there be a long line for AL at that time of year? If so, do you have alternatives to recommend? I see that Hidden Canyon and Observation Point are closed due to rockfall; do you have any idea when those might reopen? I also see that Observation Point can be accessed from the East Mesa Trail, but is that open and a good choice? Thanks for any help you can provide.Thank you for your efforts and hard work!
not a super long line at the trailhead, but it will be very busy up the chain part. My tip is to go early and get the earliest shuttle tickets possible. Or ride a bicycle to the trailhead.I was just talking today to a colleague who will be going to southern Utah over spring break (end of March/beginning of April). They're going to Zion and want to hike Angel's Landing. @Yvonne, would there be a long line for AL at that time of year? If so, do you have alternatives to recommend? I see that Hidden Canyon and Observation Point are closed due to rockfall; do you have any idea when those might reopen? I also see that Observation Point can be accessed from the East Mesa Trail, but is that open and a good choice? Thanks for any help you can provide.
July 2019, just the beginning of the line to go up to Angels Landing
I worked the line that entire holiday weekend and wait times were up to 6 hours to go up to Angels Landing
The picture was taken at the Grotto trailhead and the line was four times as long as in the picture.
That's how Angels Landing often is in the summer.
Right now we have several hundreds of visitors each day, parking was full each weekday at about 10:15 am when the shuttle was not running
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That's my question too. Or are people just getting out more because of coronavirus? I got out less than normal last year, so maybe I'm the exception to the rule.So unreal and discouraging. This % increase over the past few years is happening in many areas of the west. Where is everyone coming from? Did they just stay home prior to Instagram and Covid?
That's my question too. Or are people just getting out more because of coronavirus? I got out less than normal last year, so maybe I'm the exception to the rule.
Agreed @IntrepidXJ. From articles I have read, many people felt that going outdoors was a great way to be active and still socially distance. I am hoping that once the shutdown eases, everyone goes back to the pavement.I have hope that once those things are back to normal many people will return to those activities...