- May 25, 2019
I have no experience with them. I’m looking to extend the use of my 20 degree bag and am wondering if any of you have used them and gotten the added temp that they claim to provide. Thanks.
Why not roll with a fleece top and pants? Same insulation value, lighter, more compact, and more versatile. 100 wt fleece is cheap and great for hiking in wet conditions in shoulder seasons.I've used a cheap Coleman fleece liner in my 15 degree bag a handful of times and I was almost fully comfortable near 0 degrees with it. Only complaint is the space the fleece takes up in my backpack. I'll be using it more now that the temps are dropping though.
Some hot water in a HDPE Nalgene works great here too. Also helps to force moisture out of your bag. It’s stuff you’re already carrying and agreed makes a significant difference in the winter.Another thought: I take hand warmers for my dogs (I have the dogs pack them) to help them stay warm at night and have found they do wonders for me if I am on the cold side: I have put one on each leg under my thermals over/close to the femoral arteries to warm the body up - works very well too - just extra weight though if you are carrying it all.
This is exactly what I was hoping I’d get from a liner the clean factor plus the extra few degrees.I bought a Sea to Summit Thermolite a few years ago with high hopes of making a difference from not getting cold at night using an under performing sleeping bag: it helped but did not save the day and I still froze my butt off till I invested in a better down bag, and as the above comments have stated, the best way is to layer up with your clothing to keep you warm. Those liners are GREAT though at keeping your bag clean especially after days on the trail - much easier to wash than your bag.
Another thought: I take hand warmers for my dogs (I have the dogs pack them) to help them stay warm at night and have found they do wonders for me if I am on the cold side: I have put one on each leg under my thermals over/close to the femoral arteries to warm the body up - works very well too - just extra weight though if you are carrying it all.
I already carry a similar down throw that Costco carries but that’s for the dog.Never tried a liner but on my recent trip to the Uintas I brought along a cheap down throw to put over my bag and was very comfortable. At 14.75 ounces it is probably heavier than a liner but for $19.95 at Bed Bath and Beyond it’s a bargain.
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If it’s cold enough to need a liner I guess I don’t see how the clean factor really is a factor. You are going to be sleeping in some extra clothes so it’s not like your sweaty baselayer is in direct contact with your bag. An extra set of baselayer top and bottoms is lighter and would be more comfortable and versatile anyway vs a liner.This is exactly what I was hoping I’d get from a liner the clean factor plus the extra few degrees.
That's a great idea. I already have the sewing machine and plenty of thread. I just lack any practice with it. Haha. It's not exactly a fashion show in the tent though so I guess it doesn't matter if I do a poor job making my own clothing.Why not roll with a fleece top and pants? Same insulation value, lighter, more compact, and more versatile. 100 wt fleece is cheap and great for hiking in wet conditions in shoulder seasons.
My real suggestion is to pick up a sewing machine at a thrift store and turn that liner into some pants and a fleece vest. Total four pieces and like 5 seams. Then you’ll have the bug and pick up some shell material and 2.5 oz climashield apex for your piece-o-cake topquilt/summer bag.
Another +1 for Cap 4 (now called Thermal Weight). The hooded pullover is probably the most versatile clothing piece I’ve ever owned. Extremely breathable on its own for high output activities and throw a windshirt (or sleeping bag) over it and adds a surprising amount of warmth.I use these as well, and have the top too. Lightweight and very warm. Wear them skiing as well and they are holding up well after a few years.
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