FS Losing Most of its Trail Workers!

I've always believed this line of thought but anymore, I see more people destroying the wilderness than voting to protect it. Ask me about living in Moab for many years. I used to think Ed Abbey was being too extrmee for saying we should ban people from wilderness, but anymore I tend to agree. Our species loves to destroy things.

ETA: I think a lot of us on this forum overestimate the idea that education and exposure to wilderness will change people. We project our empathy onto others who really don't care and never will. One problem is that there are too many of us, another is the desire to make money exploiting things on Youtube and Instagram. I once was deeply involved in trying to educate people, but I really think at this point it's a losing battle. There are still a lot of good people out there, but the bad ones can do a lot of destruction proportionately. I was a BLM campground host for several years near Moab and saw it daily, and the rangers were overwhelmed. I could tell story after story.
 
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Rockskipper said:
I've always believed this line of thought but anymore, I see more people destroying the wilderness than voting to protect it. Ask me about living in Moab for many years. I used to think Ed Abbey was being too extrmee for saying we should ban people from wilderness, but anymore I tend to agree. Our species loves to destroy things.
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I don't know. I think there's an issue with the perspective that nature is more (or even 'only') pristine in the absence of humans, as if we are somehow separate from the environment in which we evolved and exist.

Encouraging low impact behaviors is great. Setting the bar at no-impact is misguided. But that's just like my opinion man, and I'm not a member of the Sierra Club.
 
Wanderlust073 said:
I don't know. I think there's an issue with the perspective that nature is more (or even 'only') pristine in the absence of humans, as if we are somehow separate from the environment in which we evolved and exist.

Encouraging low impact behaviors is great. Setting the bar at no-impact is misguided. But that's just like my opinion man, and I'm not a member of the Sierra Club.
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Not sure what being a member of the Siero club has to do with anything as they don’t propose shutting people out. I’m not a member either. I’m just tired of seeing things destroyed and I don’t think it’s some thing that needs to be politicized.
 
Rockskipper said:
Not sure what being a member of the Siero club has to do with anything
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It's a joke, not an assumption about your membership.

Anything and everything that involves funding something via taxes and/or the govt regulating how it is used is political by default.
 
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