- Mar 6, 2014
Anyone done the crawl in 'Midway' canyon?
It's kind of like Allen is on one end of the spectrum, and Kelsey on the other.
One funny example is where Allen spends a couple pages on this intricate route into No Mans Canyon through difficult terrain and on Kelsey's map it's this little dotted line that might as well be across a plateau.
Steve Allen I presume?
Yeah. I heard a ranger say one time that Kelsey's books get people lost and stuck and they use Allen's material to go find them. I used to have a little list of the worst stuff in Kelsey's books. I think he's gotten slightly better in recent editions, though, perhaps getting older has been good for him.
Man that is a crawl. Awesome. And yeah, that's hard hiking in that area. I did Gypsum/Bowdie with a packraft last summer and it kicked my ass pretty good.
It's pretty similar but a little easier. No swims or pack hauling, but still lots of climbing up high around falls. I found a route down from the south rim (barely). Great little loop though. I did it in 3 days, most would probably want a bit more. I was planning on a nice leisurely wet summer trip with some swims so it was a bit of a shocker that a large chunk of the trip is 500+' above the canyon floor traversing sketchy talus bypassing dryfalls.Nice work! How was Gyps compared to Bowdie? We thought in downhill mode there were a few spots that required careful nav in Bowdie. It took us 6 hours from the confluence, with a camp halfway thru.
Can you please please please find that list and share it? That would be a hoot.Yeah. I heard a ranger say one time that Kelsey's books get people lost and stuck and they use Allen's material to go find them. I used to have a little list of the worst stuff in Kelsey's books. I think he's gotten slightly better in recent editions, though, perhaps getting older has been good for him.
Can you please please please find that list and share it? That would be a hoot.
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