Trip Report - Hatch Canyon/Fiddler's Canyon from Poison Springs Rd - Dirty Devil

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This is a brief trip report of a 3-day backpack trip to Hatch/Fiddler's Canyon on March 23-26. We drove down Poison Springs Rd to the Dirty Devil in my stock Ford F150 without any incident.

On Day #1 we crossed the river and hiked along the road up to the high point and then dropped down using the Steve Allen/Hayduke exit/entrance route into Hatch. It was pretty easy finding the wash/shallow drainage and then pretty easy to find the traverse. I was surprised how steep it is to drop down to the navajo slickrock. About 100 yards or so of a controlled skid down the very loose rock. My friend did most of it on his but. The final drop into Hatch was pretty easy (Allen calls it a 4- climb but Id say easy 3, 3-).

We made the mistake of assuming there would be water in the two medium springs mid-canyon so hiked down 20+ minutes to set up camp, but the upper spring was completely dry and the lower spring was discharging too slowly to be of use, with no puddles to draw from. We ended up deciding to drop the packs and hike back up canyon to check out the narrows and then head back down, pick up packs, and go to the Dirty Devil for water. Surprisingly, even though I have never seen any beta of this, there was plenty of water in the narrows just 5-10 minutes from the exit/entrance point! So we ended up camping near the entrance point and loaded up.

On day 2 we hiked down to the confluence with Fiddler's, dropped the packs, and hiked up. As expected essentially all of Fiddler's was dry, but there was a few nice pools at the very end of Fiddlers (at the alcove). Another nice surprise. We loaded up with water which allowed us to minimize drinking from the dirty devil. We found a nice camp on a huge sandbar across from the mouth of Hatch.

Day 3 we hiked out via the Dirty, crossing the river 13 times (not that we were counting).

After getting back to the truck, we drove up to the black jump road (a bit harder than Poison Spring but still very doable), camped at the closure point, and day-hiked to Happy Canyon. It was mid 90s the whole week, and we were getting parched, so we spend about 4 hours in the narrows and hiked back to the truck around 5 pm in the shade of the Wingate cliffs. Worked out great. Very nice hanging out in there watching the lighting change.

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The traverse and then the slide....



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Upper Hatch Narrows
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Fiddler
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Dirty Devil Sunrise from Camp
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Happy Narrows!
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Looks awesome (other than the steep loose slope and the crazy hot weather)! Thanks for sharing
 
awesome.
I've spent a bunch of time near the DD and I'm glad you didn't have to drink too much of that chocolate milk.
 
awesome.
I've spent a bunch of time near the DD and I'm glad you didn't have to drink too much of that chocolate milk.
Indeed - we filled a collapsable bucket and let it sit overnight before filtering, and used it for coffee/oatmeal in the morning without issue. But drinking it straight up had a very nasty flavor!
 
I wonder how much difference a flocculant would make? I have some little packets of that stuff, that I picked up somewhere. I've carried it along on a few trips (along with, as you say, a bucket) but so far I've not been forced to use it. guess I should just try it out sometime, it can't hurt.

or would the problematic stuff in DD water be in solution, and therefore not precipitate out with settling / flocculant? I guess I have no idea.
 
I've had the DD chocolate milk using flocculant (just alum) multiple times and one time I only waited maybe 15-20 min before filtering with a Sawyer and didn't taste anything. I've never really had significant bad taste anywhere after filtering through a Sawyer--even when tannins in a nasty pothole kept the water a bit brown-ish after going through the Sawyer.

I also haven't noticed bad taste even when only using alum and chlorine pills without a Sawyer filter in other non-DD sources like funky potholes or silty creeks. I do always use a 25-micron mesh pre-filter any time I'm in the desert, so maybe that helps a bit.
 
I wonder how much difference a flocculant would make? I have some little packets of that stuff, that I picked up somewhere. I've carried it along on a few trips (along with, as you say, a bucket) but so far I've not been forced to use it. guess I should just try it out sometime, it can't hurt.

or would the problematic stuff in DD water be in solution, and therefore not precipitate out with settling / flocculant? I guess I have no idea.
By the morning the water near the top of the bucket was crystal clear. I filtered with a Katadyne filter. I almost gagged on my first sip. One of the very few times after many trips around the southwest that I had that kind of reaction to the taste of filtered water.
 
I also haven't noticed bad taste even when only using alum and chlorine pills without a Sawyer filter in other non-DD sources like funky potholes or silty creeks. I do always use a 25-micron mesh pre-filter any time I'm in the desert, so maybe that helps a bit.
do you have a good source for this kind of pre-filter?

my usual routine for pothole water is bandana filter and then aquamira, but the bandana only gets rid of the largest floaties, and I don't have any real reason to believe that the chlorine dioxide can penetrate the next-finer level of particles within 30 minutes.
 
do you have a good source for this kind of pre-filter?

my usual routine for pothole water is bandana filter and then aquamira, but the bandana only gets rid of the largest floaties, and I don't have any real reason to believe that the chlorine dioxide can penetrate the next-finer level of particles within 30 minutes.
By "source", do you mean where do I buy the pre-filter mesh or where did I get the info? I just get flexible 8" square 25-micron honey/hash filters on Amazon.

I didn't have access to multiple AI agents for research when I started backpacking, and I only use regular chlorine pills (AquaTabs, not the superior chlorine dioxide in AquaMira) when my Sawyer is clogged or broken so most of the time I get .1 micron Sawyer filtration.

For the few times I didn't use my Sawyer and only used the 25-micron filter followed by 30 minutes to 24 hours of alum settling and then treated the clear water with AquaTabs for 30+ minutes, here's what I'm seeing online after-the-fact: Protozoa are 2-50 microns, so you might guess half are eliminated by the pre-filter mesh. Then alum is supposed to get 50-90% of things the size of Giardia (8-14 micron) and Crypto (4-6 micron) clumped and settled on the bottom. The LLM told me, so it must be true. If you then treated the clear water with AquaTabs, Giardia is killed in 30-60 minutes and Crypto in 10-15 hours. Or only 4 hours with AquaMira.

Since the non-Sawyer method isn't my normal routine, I'm guessing the mesh + alum + AquaTabs for only 30 minutes likely took care of all Giardia and lowered the number of Crypto in the water such that they didn't make me noticeably sick. Some of the time, some of the water would've had chlorine in it overnight to definitively kill all Crypto.
 
lol .......... maybe the water didn't have any bugs.....
 
By "source", do you mean where do I buy the pre-filter mesh or where did I get the info? I just get flexible 8" square 25-micron honey/hash filters on Amazon.
Ah, yeah, I just meant where to buy these. I see them on amazon now-- thanks.

For the few times I didn't use my Sawyer and only used the 25-micron filter followed by 30 minutes to 24 hours of alum settling and then treated the clear water with AquaTabs for 30+ minutes, here's what I'm seeing online after-the-fact: Protozoa are 2-50 microns, so you might guess half are eliminated by the pre-filter mesh. Then alum is supposed to get 50-90% of things the size of Giardia (8-14 micron) and Crypto (4-6 micron) clumped and settled on the bottom. The LLM told me, so it must be true. If you then treated the clear water with AquaTabs, Giardia is killed in 30-60 minutes and Crypto in 10-15 hours. Or only 4 hours with AquaMira.
Oof, I seldom wait the full 4 hours for aquamira. I mean, sometimes it does sit overnight, but usually not.

Anyway, all interesting-- thanks!

I've tried just about every water purification method and wow none of them are great. The one that sketched me out the most was the steripen-- I've never owned one, but have used them on a few trips with others. And it's sure hard to see the LEDs on that thing out in the bright desert sunlight. And it's sure hard to trust that swirling that stupid little thing around in the water is actually purifying it adequately.
 
lol .......... maybe the water didn't have any bugs.....
Well, I don't feel like the water out there is as bad as it's made out to be.

I mean sure-- that nasty pothole the cows are using, better purify the hell out of it.

But I've done a week+ in Alaska without any water treatment at all. And in the mountains in the lower 48 I don't bother treating water flowing out of snowbanks or springs.

Those perfect slickrock puddles you see in the desert for a few days after a rain-- I'm always tempted to just drink from those, but I do end up usually treating them.

Anyway, I've not gotten a nasty stomach bug so far, but I do know folks who've had nasty bouts of giardia, and it's no joke.
 
This has been a really interesting discussion ... I didn't know about the 25 micron mesh pre-filter approach ...

For me, I always carry water purification tablets and use these for all sources, even from a clear, fast-flowing stream ... if the water is from a pothole, I'll initially use the Platypus Quickdraw filter, before adding the tablets ... if the pothole water is murky, then I'll also use a bandana first. Luckily, I've had no issues, so far.

As always, it's interesting to get Kelsey's 'unique take' on a subject, and again he doesn't disappoint :)

"... the author always carries a small bottle of iodine tablets, which can be used in an emergency. In all the author's travels to 223 countries, republics, islands and island groups, and to all corners of the Colorado Plateau, he has used iodine tablets or Clorox bleach less than 10 times to purify water."
 
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"... the author always carries a small bottle of iodine tablets, which can be used in an emergency. In all the author's travels to 223 countries, republics, islands and island groups, and to all corners of the Colorado Plateau, he has used iodine tablets or Clorox bleach less than 10 times to purify water."

Kelsey is definitely counting the Republics of Blanding and Hite and every sandbar in the Dirty Devil in order to get to 223 republics, islands, and island groups.

I started using the 25-micron mesh to reduce the amount/time for alum in silty desert water, but now I think it helps keep my Sawyer from clogging so I use it many places. Even in the mountains, some lakes have a bunch of detritus so it comes in handy.
 

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