I have followed this site and used the information gained from it's members for quite a while. I am looking to do a thorofare trip starting around September 10th 2018 with 3 of my friends. I have came up with two routes. First route is to start at the heart lake trail head, cut east on the trail creek trail, cut south on thorofare, then west over big game ridge and out at the south entrance. I did a similar trip 7 or 8 years ago starting at nine mile trailhead, going south following yellowstone river, turning west over big game ridge and out heart lake, but i have never done the trail creek portion following arms of yellowstone lake. The second route i thought about would be: start at heart lake, cut east on trail creek trail, cut south on thorofare, then go south into the teton wilderness at hawk's rest, over two ocean pass, through soda fork meadows and out at turpin meadows. I know several members of this forum are very familiar with this area. The questions i have are: with hunting season about to start ramping up in the teton wilderness, will the outfitters and packhorses be jammed into this area sep 10th-20th or so? It's always a balance between solitude and feeling like you are out in the wilds with no one around and sharing the wilderness, but i don't think i would like being behind a calvary of pack horses. i know it can snow anytime, but would that be a major worry this late in the season? do you prefer this section of the teton wilderness over south boundary trail of yellowstone (mariposa lake, big game ridge, snake river)? if I do the teton wilderness section instead of south boundary trail of yellowstone, would it be better to start at turpin meadows and end at heart lake or is one direction about the same as other? Thanks for your help.