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Well, talked to him today. He said he injured it, and before they could really check it out they cleared him and said it was basically healed. So, maybe not a complete tear? Or maybe a mild one? Just the same, I will have him get a phisical to be safe. It was months ago, and he is taking a...

Ok, back again. Last summer took the guys on the school trip, did not do the entire Death Hollow hike much to their dissappointment. Going back with most of them this year in two months as they loved it and are desperate to do the entire thing. Really made me feel good, the fact that after doing...

I feel like there has been a miscommunication somewhere here, not sure I understand a few aspects of this. My plan at this point, taking everything into consideration, is going to the visiters center sunday morning, checking with them on conditions and forcast, then making the decision. If the...

Wow. Maybe you missread my above post, and read an attitude or tone in it that was not there. I don't know. Because I am reading a rather heavy dose of it in what you just said. Being as friendly as I can, I will say this: Have you ever taken 18 year olds on an out of state trip before? As a...

Understand your point, but when taking kids two states away to try something, I want to know what I am putting them through. As its the only hike I know, and I know its an extremely good one, its what I am comfortable with. I do not want to try a new hike with this group.....I want to stick...

Ok, I checked three major weather websites.....weather.com, weatherunderground both show no rain the days we are in the canyon. They both show rain only saturday, and thats IT for the whole week. Accuweather shows rain friday, sunday, and monday. I am thinking we will check in with the escalante...

Ok, what is the whole boulder mail trial? I am only familiar with the stretch from the airstrip to the canyon.

Accuweather says a thunderstorm friday, a dry saturday, a pm thunderstorm sunday night, and a couple of thunderstorms monday. I am at a loss. It was like this last year when I went, they had rain the week before....And the river was fine. Dang it.

Arg. I don't know what to do. I am in wichita ks.....Have put this trip together, raised money, done all kinds of work for it. Can't cancel it.

Agreed......Only, I am taking 4 graduating seniors from the high school I work at and one junior. These guys are all great, responsible kids. I just know that the other dangers inherent in Death Hollow I can accept.....drowning when the river comes up 10 feet is not. But, I would assume that to...

Well, accuweather says rain today, MAYBE friday, and not again until monday has a chance of thuderstorms. By monday we should be through the canyons anyway, and where it opens up. Think we wouold be safe? The plan is to spend sunday night in Death Hollows entrance, then hike to the confluence by...

Ok, help me out. Any other non-flooding hikes I could take if I drive 17 hours only to find it unpassable? A hike in the area thats maybe 1-3 days, over night?

Leaving this friday.......They have had some rain recently in the area. Hoping its ok. Tried to call the escalante ranger, left a message, never heard back from him. Anyone know if the river is up too much to safely make the hike?

Oh.....they have fire ants in the canyon? Wow. Ok, we'll all be in tents. Not sure I like the idea of fire ants on me. And even a non venemous spider bite would suck. Wow...... Anyone ever make the drive from escalante to las vegas? A friend of mine that cannot hike with us is dropping us off...

Ok, I have done the hike 3 times. From the airstrip to the highway. I see online all the time that tons of people hike it and sleep on the ground in bags with no tents. Is there not a danger of snakes or spiders getting on you while you sleep? How safe is this? To put an earth mat down and your...

Checking this out. Trip is on, very excited. I have done the Airstrip to Highway 12 route twice all the way through, and back in 09 I hiked in to sand creek with three friends, pitched camp, and explored the whole area thoroughly for a few days. Got down in Death Holow, but hiked out. Loved it...

Eh, we'll probably just do the airstrip to the highway 12 bridgehead. My kids and group can do it. Last summer on our trip we saw a 72 year old man hiking OUT of death hollow, back to the airstrip, and saw a small family of a father with 5 teens from 12-18. So I know my kids can do it. Having a...

I know I can do the airstrip to highway 12, and know my students can. Just curious if there is another route to take them through possibly.

Ok, have a small group of good teenagers wanting to do death hollow with me next summer after school gets out. About 8 people officially now. Question is, I have heard of other routes to get into Death Hollow without coming from the Boulder Mail Trail. My previous three trips we started at the...

This would be a smaller group. Say, 10 maximum?