Hi All
You were all very helpful in helping me and my friends secure a permit for the Tetons in August. We are going to do Paintbrush/Cascade loop.
What I have to pick from (not bringing everything!!)
1 - S/S Merino Wool Tshirt (lightweight)
1 - L/S Merino Wool 1/4 neck zip up (mid weight)
1 - Patagonia Micro Puff Hoody - Primaloft 100g with windproof shell
1 - Patagonia Acensionist Jacket - Its a little big on me but likely useable - good for rain coverage, not sure if it will supply any help with wind?
1 - LL Bean Trail Model Polartec Fleece Vest
1 - Eddie Bauer Stormdown Stormlight Vest
1 - PrAna Zion Stretch Pants
Several variations of synthetic/merino wool socks
1 - windstopper fleece gloves
1 - North Face Soft Shell - does not seem packing friendly since it does not really compress much
1 - EMS fleece/jacket - its mostly heavy fleece with some soft shell mixed in around under arms and chest area. Does not really pack down small nor is it light weight and is big on me so would rather leave at home
Reserved for sleeping
1 - L/S Merino Wool shirt (mid weight)
1 - Smartwool long underwear pants
I have a 35 degree down bag with a self inflating pad for under it.
I know I do not need all of these layers, just listing what I already own that will likely fit me. One thing I do not have is a full fleece jacket/pull over. Some reports suggest something like a Patagonia R1, but then some say unless you are sitting around that is too hot and you'll sweat like crazy. For this type of trip, what specific temps could I expect and plan for? Is a fleece pull over better suited for this weather vs a fleece (or down) vest? Most forums I found when searching were for climbers who did stand around a lot to belay and tie rope so that is different than say backpacking when you are mostly moving for 5-8 hours a day then sitting still at night in camp. If not an R1, anything lighter or would either vest work?
Also thoughts on a Wind Shirt/Jacket? Could I use the Acensionist Jacket to help with wind and rain or should I look at a Marmot DriClime or something along those lines?
Anything else I need to consider? I was trying to find a good list online but was mostly finding stuff by retailers so who knows if they inflate what is needed to sell more products. And it is also tough with their descriptions of hard v soft shells, rain jackets, wind shirts, fleece, etc. If I followed those instructions I'd have 8 layers or more.
Also I live in the Northeast so things reusable around here for 3 season hiking is great. Usually my trips consist of day hikes, so if weather is bad I just bail :-( But I would like to get into longer treks so investing in some layers may be worthwhile if needed.
updated: found out some of the models of the patagonia jackets.
You were all very helpful in helping me and my friends secure a permit for the Tetons in August. We are going to do Paintbrush/Cascade loop.
What I have to pick from (not bringing everything!!)
1 - S/S Merino Wool Tshirt (lightweight)
1 - L/S Merino Wool 1/4 neck zip up (mid weight)
1 - Patagonia Micro Puff Hoody - Primaloft 100g with windproof shell
1 - Patagonia Acensionist Jacket - Its a little big on me but likely useable - good for rain coverage, not sure if it will supply any help with wind?
1 - LL Bean Trail Model Polartec Fleece Vest
1 - Eddie Bauer Stormdown Stormlight Vest
1 - PrAna Zion Stretch Pants
Several variations of synthetic/merino wool socks
1 - windstopper fleece gloves
1 - North Face Soft Shell - does not seem packing friendly since it does not really compress much
1 - EMS fleece/jacket - its mostly heavy fleece with some soft shell mixed in around under arms and chest area. Does not really pack down small nor is it light weight and is big on me so would rather leave at home
Reserved for sleeping
1 - L/S Merino Wool shirt (mid weight)
1 - Smartwool long underwear pants
I have a 35 degree down bag with a self inflating pad for under it.
I know I do not need all of these layers, just listing what I already own that will likely fit me. One thing I do not have is a full fleece jacket/pull over. Some reports suggest something like a Patagonia R1, but then some say unless you are sitting around that is too hot and you'll sweat like crazy. For this type of trip, what specific temps could I expect and plan for? Is a fleece pull over better suited for this weather vs a fleece (or down) vest? Most forums I found when searching were for climbers who did stand around a lot to belay and tie rope so that is different than say backpacking when you are mostly moving for 5-8 hours a day then sitting still at night in camp. If not an R1, anything lighter or would either vest work?
Also thoughts on a Wind Shirt/Jacket? Could I use the Acensionist Jacket to help with wind and rain or should I look at a Marmot DriClime or something along those lines?
Anything else I need to consider? I was trying to find a good list online but was mostly finding stuff by retailers so who knows if they inflate what is needed to sell more products. And it is also tough with their descriptions of hard v soft shells, rain jackets, wind shirts, fleece, etc. If I followed those instructions I'd have 8 layers or more.
Also I live in the Northeast so things reusable around here for 3 season hiking is great. Usually my trips consist of day hikes, so if weather is bad I just bail :-( But I would like to get into longer treks so investing in some layers may be worthwhile if needed.
updated: found out some of the models of the patagonia jackets.
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