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    Glacier National Park in Mid July

    Permit system opens in 2 weeks. Considering Many Glacier to Goat Haunt or St Marys to Two Medicine. For either trip: is there a desired route - ie MG to GH or GH to MG and same with the other two? Which route gives you a better trip? I know it is early but an snow indications for these...
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    Paintbrush/Cascade in Grand Teton

    All - thanks for all of your help in assisting me and my group in planning our trip. Leading up to the trip we thought we would need ice axes for the Divide (we were permitted for Aug 3-5). When we went to the Ranger station in Moose/Visitor Center on the 2nd they showed us a picture and said...
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    Paintbrush/Cascade 3 day/2 night trip

    thanks @Chuck the Mauler and @BryanG - all very helpful. Those side trips sound fun so we'll keep a mental note and see how we are doing and if we want to go explore some more.
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    Paintbrush/Cascade 3 day/2 night trip

    Thanks for the advice everyone! Re: Bear Canisters - yes I am aware they loan out the Garcia, and they also loan out the UDAP canister too which is a bit smaller. So I guess we can take everything out at the ranger station and play some Tetris to see how it all fits together. So we can pick...
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    Paintbrush/Cascade 3 day/2 night trip

    All - you were very helpful several months ago and my friends and I were able to secure a permit for a trip to the Tetons to do Paintbrush and Cascade. Just a few follow up questions for the group: 1) Food - I know the park will give us bear canisters when we check in. For a group of 6 guys I...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    @Absarokanaut - not planning to do anything to put my friends and I or rescue units in jeopardy. That is why I said if we are not comfortable with the conditions after speaking to the rangers we'll make alternate plans. Nor did I mention anything on this thread about lightweight, cutting...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    Yikes - if we are near 7-10'' of snow we'll pick another route or just call it off and do something else. Sad but true, we will not be prepared for that kind of weather. at @LarryBoy - its a 3 day/2 night trip so using your logical we'll have eaten lunch/dinner for day 1 so just 2 days of...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    Thanks for the tips! Others in this forum pointed me in that direction of the permit system a few months ago so we picked up one early on in the process so we are set. For the canisters is it 1 per 2 people, 1 per person, etc? Never used one before so curious.
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    Thanks @Longnok and others for the advice. I think I at least know the basics from here and I can test out a few combos during the Spring when I am out in 40-50 type temps to get an idea of what will and will not work. I tend to run a little on the cold side so I'll over prepare. I can take...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    100% Paralysis by analysis!! That is me in a nutshell. I use the Puffy when I compete at BBQ contests and sleep outside (no sleeping bag, just a chair). That plus a fire has kept me alive in 30 degree weather. There is no way I could pull that off with this fleece, its a thin 100g type polar...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    Thanks all - I know layering is personal since some people run hot v cold, etc. But its daunting online to read about hard shells and soft shells and hybrid shells and wind jackets or a wind shirt. Then fleece of various thicknesses, etc. It can confuse someone big time. And then to decide...
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    Layering for Tetons in Early August

    Hi All You were all very helpful in helping me and my friends secure a permit for the Tetons in August. We are going to do Paintbrush/Cascade loop. What I have to pick from (not bringing everything!!) 1 - S/S Merino Wool Tshirt (lightweight) 1 - L/S Merino Wool 1/4 neck zip up (mid weight) 1...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    ok thanks for the help and input. and you suggest the order in which you stated Holly > Cascades and back vs doing Cascades first then holly then back? I remember a post I read someone on a review saying 1 direction had much nicer views as you approached some of the bigger mountains vs them...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    Thanks Chuck - yeah that Paintbrush/Cascade loop was the first one I mentioned in the post, my fear was possible snow left over. We are targeting the 1st or 2nd week of August, should be clear by then? Given potenial weather I wasn't sure if finding something by Death Canyon trailhead to be...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    I am back trying to put some finishes touches to see if we can get a permit @Chuck the Mauler - if we did this loop: http://backcountrypost.com/threads/grand-teton-backpacking-newbie-a-few-questions.6350/ - it references sleeping night 2 in the Basin. As you mentioned, no permit is needed...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    Again thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. I have one other "co lead" of this group helping to plan so he is going to review this stuff and we are going to talk next week. So may go quiet for a few days but if we have more questions we'll circle back next week. And even with no...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    Are other areas of the park less impacted by the snow later in the summer? Lots of reviews about Paintbrush Canyon all have warnings about snow in late summer, but I do not see those warnings as much when I read about other trails. I was using @Chuck the Mauler advice from above and looked at...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Yes sorry meant the Eclipse coming up in August. chuck - going to show those options to my friend who is helping plan - how does the shuttle work? I assume we could try to make it a loop but if its too long of a hike for us and running short on time...We could get...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    This is all GREAT help so thank you all very much. A ton of info in such a short time! Re: permits - so if say we wanted to stay at Campsite A for 1 night and Campsite B for the second night I would sign up for two permits, Joe Smith for Campsite A on August 1st and Campsite B on August 2nd...
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    Grand Teton & Backpacking Newbie - a few questions

    Thank you for the intel. Would the Rangers assist in helping map out an alternate route as well or should we have something as a backup plan. Does the permit detail what trail/campsite we are using, or the permit is general and we can use any trail/campsite we want once we have the permit?
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